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Elihu Umphrey, Robert Underhill, William Underhill, William Under- hill Jr.
John Valentine, Peter Vandenburgh, John Van Densen, Stephen Van Deusen, Garret Vandusen, Robert Van Dusen, David Van Dyck, Derick Van Dyck, Cornelius Van Hoesen, Tobias Van Hoesen. Peter Van Loan, John Van Loon, Abraham Van Valkenbergh, Isaac Van Valkenbergh, Jacob Van Valkenbergh, Jacob L. Van Valkenbergh, Jehoiakem P. Van Valkenbergh, Jerome P'. Van Valkenbergh. Lambert L. Van Valkenbergh, Peter L. Van Valkenbergh, Tunnis Van Valkenbergh, Stephen Vincent.
Gideon Walcott, Samuel Walcott, George Walton, William Ward, James Wares, John Waterman, Benjamin Way. Jacob West, John West, Eliphalet Wheeler, Elisha Wheeler, Thomas Wheeler, Israel Whitcomb, Israel Whitcomb Jr., Argalier White, Nathan White, Nathaniel Wilcox. Daniel Williams, John A. Williams, John Williamson, John Willson, John Willson Jr., Nevin Wilson, James Wiltsey, Jehial Winchell, Jehiel Winchell, Matthew Winter. Rogers Winter, David Winters, Abijah Wolcott, Solomon Wolcott, Joshua Wolfen, Lemuel Woodworth, Austin Wright, Benjamin [this name follows Osborn].
Total, 641 households for Windham, which then included all the mountain half of our county; for county, 3021 households, in 1810.
We Finish at Last
the 1810 census. Some very interesting responses to these lists have come from people who recognized ancestors or other names. There must be many, many others who could tell us facts we need to know, who talk about them in their homes as they scan these columns, but who have not yet sent us their help. Please do so now. A postcard, or a telephone message, will put us in touch. Do not forget your address .- C. Apr. 17, 24, and May 1. 1930.
Some Amusing Errors occur in the 1810 census lists We are very par- ticular to print the names exactly as they stand in the Beers history, not correcting even the most obvious misprints, such as "Dehorah" for De- horah, for it is often unsafe to make supposed corrections withont positive information. Who can give us that information -- definite corrections of individual mistakes? We ask your help, to make the list exact.
Here. for example, is "Catlope Cannight" in Catskill (1810). Who was "Catlope"? Our gness is Calliope, and that the last name is an old spelling for what we now write Canniff, like Imboght and its familar pronunciation "Imbuff." But who then was Calliope Canniff? Can some of her descendants enlighten us? *
[ *See later information on pages 114-115.]
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1817 CATSKILL VILLAGE CENSUS
We have been interested, in this connection, to learn how accurate was the proof-reading in Beers's history, and have now found a good check on it in the list of school subscribers on his page 130, copied from page 77 of the "Sketches of Catskill." In this short list of 55 names we discover no less than five careless mistakes in copying or proving namely "Pale" for Hale, "Overbaugh" for Overbagh, "Brockway & Company" for plain Brockway, "Lacy" for Lacey, and "Brosnahan" for Brosnaham. One name wrong out of every eleven! And this in copying from a printed list. When such work is added to the scrawly, faded, worn handwriting of the old census sheets, one can imagine the accuracy with which the names have reached us.
And by the way, there is that old 1810 census manuscript? It has not been found in the court house. We should like to see the original .- C. Dec. 5, 1929.
Catskill Village in 1817
contained 238 families with a total population of 1513, had nine schools and four "worshiping Assemblys" and there was no house in the village unoccupied while some houses contained "3, 4, 5 and 6 families each." So states a little manuscript census of June, that year, the well preserved original of which has been found among the papers of the late Judge Emory A. Chase of Catskill, presented to him in 1907 by Henry AAshley. Through the kindness of Mrs. Chase we are able to reproduce the list of (heads of ) "families" with the numbers in each. There were in all 1434 white per- sons recorded, 66 free blacks (indicated by us in the following list by the letter "b") and 13 slaves (here indicated by "sl"), total 1513. In the eight page original, the names are grouped under the initials but are not otherwise alphabetic. For greater convenience of reference, and for com- parison with the town census of 1810 published in preceding issues, we rearrange the names into strict alphabetical order.
"Population of the Village of Catskill, June 1817." (Note: Each name is followed by the number of persons in family, with b. for blacks and sl. for slaves): Chas. C. Abeel 3, David C. Abeel S, Garrit Abeel 7, John Adams 7 sl. 1. Daniel Ashley 3, Henry Ashley 9, John Ashley 14;
Charles Backus 10, Charles Baker 6 Saml. Baker 3, Wni. Barnett 5. Erastus Beach 4, Mathew Bellamy 5, Caleb Benton 4 h. 1, Saml. Benton 5, Tom. Berger b. 4, David Blake 2, Jer. Blake 5, Joseph Blake 6, John Blanchard 3, James Bloggett 5, Egbert Bogardus S. Jas. Bogardus 7, John Bogardus 10, John Bogardus Jr. 3. Peter Bogardus 4, John P. Bolen 8, Francis Botsford 9 b. 1. Andrew Breasted 4, Peter Breasted 7, Wm. Britton 8, A. Brosnaham 4 b. 1, Ben. Brown b. 4, Mrs. Butler 5;
Robert Calder 6, M. I. Cantine 6, Hastings Castle 6, Sol. Chandler S, Phylemon Church 5, Allen Clark 4, Betsey Clark 3, Charles Clark S, John Clemens 5, Mary Clemens 2, Jas. Cole 10, Jas. Colier 10 b. 1. Ellison Con- gar 2, Philip Conine 5, Appollas Cooke 7 h. 1, T. B. Cooke 14 sl. 1, Peter Coons S, Polly Creigg 2, Mackay Croswell 10, T. O. H. Croswell 5 b. 1;
John F. Darrow 7. Hugh Daugerty 3. Peter Davison 7, Ira Dav 10 b. 1, Orrin Day 9 b. 1, Russell Day 9 sl. 1, Stephen Day 5 bl. 1, Henry Day- ton 5, Wm. Dayton 5, Zac. Dederick 6 b. 1. John Depew 5, Mrs. Dewitt 4,
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Theph. Dimmick 6, Abin. Dobbs S, Terrence Donnely 11 b. 3, Robert Dorlon 6 b. 1, Mary Dongherty 4, Isaac Donglas 4, Barrent Dubois 5, Cornelius Dubois 6, Isaac Dubois 10 b. 3 sl. 1, John Dubois 6 b. 1 sl. 1, John Dubois Jr. 7, Widow Dubois 3. Allen Dumond 3, Ant. Dumond 4, Jacob Dunham 6, David Dutcher 2, Ben. W. Dwight 6:
William Edwards 10 Nathan Elliot 7. Nathl. Ells 6, Jesse Emmons 4, Saml. Everest 2;
Abm. Fonda 10, Philip Foot b. 2, John Franklin 5;
Gardner 2, Wm. Gibbs 7, Truman Gillet 3, John Good 4, Chan. Goodrich 5, Henry Grace 4, John Grace 6, - Graham S, John Grant 3, Mrs. Grosvenor 2;
Jacob Haight 7 b. I, Thos. Hale S, Aaron C. Hall 7 b. 2, Ira C. Hal! 6, Lemmel Hall 6, Abm. Hallenbeck 5, J. M. Hallenbeck 5, - -Ham 4 David Hamlin 7, Frank Hamlin 4, John Hamlin 6, Isaac Hardenberg 4 b. 1, Ezra Hawley 11 b. 2. John Hazen 4, George Henry 7, Samt. Henry 6, John Hicks 4, Hiland Hill 6, Hiland Hill Jr. 6. Richard Ilill 6, Nathl. Hin- man 15, Josiah Hull 3, Saml. Hull S, Sol. Hustes 5, Ben. Hyde 2, Wilkes Hyde 7;
Tom. Jackson b. 4, Nathl. Jacobs S, J. M. Jolmson 6 b. I;
Mrs. Kane 6, Thomas Kelsey 5; John Lamb 5, Joseph Larrabee 3. John Layman 5, Mrs. Lee 4, Thos. Limbrick S b. 1, Arch. Ludinton 6, Tert. Ludinton 13;
Saml. Magee 7, Ben. Maltby 3. Andrew McFarlane 6. Henry Mckinstry 7 b. 1, Elisha Meiggs 12, Aris, Merrick 7, P. T. Mesick 4, Mrs. Miller 5. Seth Miller 3. Jacob Millius 3, Daniel Miner 6, Joseph Moore 9, Robert Moore 5, James Morgan 6;
J. H. Oakley 7, Wm. Overbaugh 4;
John Pack 4, Jonathan Palen 6, Win. Patterson S. Joseph Penfield S, Sam. L. Penfield S b. 1, R. R. Penoyer 6, James Pinckney 11, David Porter 3 b. 1, James Powers 9, Pratt 9, Mrs. Prout 5, H. Pruyn 6;
Henry Race 4, Isaac Race 6, Gid. Reynolds 13, Jas. Reynolds 3, Mrs. Rider 1, Jacob Rockefeller 5, Charles Rogers &, Jacobus Row 5, Jonathan Row S, Tunis Ryer 5;
Francis Sayre 7. Eber Scott 4, J. V. D. S. Scott (this was Judge John Van Der Spiegle Scott) 7 b. 1. Seth Scott 7, Wm. Scott 3, Win. Seaman 8 b. 1, Robt. Searls 21, John Segue 2, Peter Shauerman 7, Ezra H. Shepard 7, A. Sherman 11, Ben. Sherman 3, J. E. Simmons 3, Cuff Smith b. 3 sl. 1, Simon Smith 4. Ben. Soles 11, Mark Spencer 5 st. I, John Starr 6, Mrs. Starr 3, Danl. Stevens 3, Adam Stewart 1, Jared Stocking S. David Stratton Jr. 6, Seth Swift 3;
Seth Tenbroeck 5 sl. I, Conklin Terry 2, Hez. Thayer 8. Bill Thompson b: 8, J. A. Thompson 8 b. 2 sl. 2. Nathl. Thorn 5, Arch. Thorp 10, David Thorp 5, Mrs. Thorp 2, Ben. Titus 3, Gilbert Titus 4, Wm. Tucker 9;
W'm. Van Bergen 7 b. 1. J. C. Vander Zee 5. Henry Van Gorden 10 sl. 1. Garrit Van loesen &, Jacob A. Van loesen 5. Isaac Van Loan 2, Wm. Van Loan 6, Ben. Van Orden Jr. S sl. 1. Jacob Van Orden 9 b. 1, Saml. Van Orden 3. Jas. Van Volkenberg 7. John Van Volkenberg 2 b. 1. Jacob Van Voorhis 7, Roeloff Voorhis 6;
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Mrs. Weed 2. Zenos W. Weed 3, Elijah Wells 7, John Wetsell 3, Win. H. Wey 3 s1. 1. Saml. Whittemore 7, J. B. Whittlesey 3, Horace Willard 9, Nathl. Willson 14, Ira Winans 7, Jas. Woodruff 6;
"In Jail & Limites 6, in Poor House 11, Coasters not included in any family 15 b. 5" giving total of 1513. "Average per Family G."
This list is interesting in showing that less than one-sixth of the colored population were slaves even at this early date, but had been very generally freed, and that some had become self-supporting families, such as Berger, Brown, Foot, Jackson, Smith and Thompson. We should like to hear from the descendants of any of the colored persons represented in this census list. It is interesting also as reflecting the prosperity of the village after the war of 1812 when the seas had been opened to our com- merce and New York City was just starting its great growth, with Cats- kill as one of its most important shipping points of food and leather.
Whoever recognizes in the above lists any familiar or ancestral name, please send us a line. Tell us what you can about them. It will make delightful reading, and when this information is all compiled in our Historian's files it will supply an inimitable picture of the past .- C. Jan. 16, 1980.
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The following misprints have been noted:
Page 38: an entire line omitted following " Chistn (x)" in line 20, viz .- Sax, Jacob Sax, Johnnes (IS) Sax, Paul Sax, Peter (PS) Sax, Peter Sax, In the next line for "sen." read Sen.
Page 40: the second line ( "written at first") should be crossed off.
Page 17, line 8: for "more" read further.
Page 17, line 17: for "Frederexsz" read Fredericxsz.
Page 24, line 12 from bottom: for "laids" read laid.
Page 29, line 22: the apostrophe after Puisne is an (improper ) accent.
Page 30, line 3 from bottom; for "Dederick" read Dedrick.
Page 31, line 17: for "Coxackie" read Coxacckie.
Page 35, line 25: insert a comma after "sermon."
Page 42, line &: insert comma after "ashes."
Page 43, line 13 from bottom: insert comma after "life."
Page 45, line 10 from bottom: the original spelling is "prinipals."
Page 61, line 3: insert a ditto mark before 1.34.
Page 61, line 7 under 1845: for "fifty" read fifty five.
Page 63, line S from bottom: for "pools" read polls. Page 68: paragraph 2 is a part of the quotation. .
Page 78, line 15 from bottom: Nancy Holcomb's age should read 86 years.
Page 92, line 12 from bottom: for "ounty" read County.
Page 123: for "William Hoflinbake" read William W. Hollinbake. And some self-evident slips in punctuation.
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GREENE COUNTY HISTORICAL SOCIETY INCORPORATED
Trustees
Leonard Bronk Lampman . Coxsackie
Richard A. Austin. Cairo
Abner B. Woodworth, Secretary Hensonville
Levit C. Powell. New Baltimore
J. Lewis Patrie, Chairman Catskill
Officers
J. Frank Lackey, President. . Tannersville
Orin Q. Flint, 1st Vice-President. Athens
G. H. Chadwick, 2nd Vice-President. Catskill
Win. S. Borthwick, Secretary . Cornwallville
Mrs. J. V. V. Vedder, Assistant Secretary Catskill
Mrs. J. V. V. Vedder, Historial Catskill
Harry B. Morris, Treasurer. . Catskill
Membership:
300
1932
136
F 85134. 158
Lat
5614
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