Ecclesiastical records, state of New York, Volume V, Part 2

Author: New York (State). State Historian. cn; Hastings, Hugh, 1856-1916. cn; Corwin, Edward Tanjore, 1834-1914, ed. cn; Holden, James Austin, 1861-
Publication date: 1901
Publisher: Albany, J. B. Lyon, state printer
Number of Pages: 720


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21 The Coetus of New York to the Classis of Amsterdam- Deposition of De Wint-Seeming contradictions in Wyn- stock's letters-Arondeus still troublesome-New Paltz at peace-New Paltz independent of Kingston. 3290-3294


25 Acts of the Deputies on Frelinghuysen's letter of June 25 3294, 3295


29 The Coetus of New York to the Rev. Coetus of Pennsyl- vania-Thanks for their letter. about Marinus, who has been examined, and will soon be ordained. 3295, 3296


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2 Death of Rev. Kalverslager of St. Johns, W. I., and call of Rev. John W. Knevels there-Request for his examina- tion and ordination for that field-Letters approved to De Wind and to church of Staten Island-Case of Aron- deus reviewed-Report on, and letter concerning him to New York, approved-Classis receives letter of Theodore Frelinghuysen concerning Van Hoevenberg-He is recog- nized as a minister in Surinam, but not in New York- John W. Knevels finally examined for St. John, and ordained 3296-3298


2 The Classis of Amsterdam to the Consistories of Bergen and Staten Island-Their final action in reference to De Wint 3298, 3299


2 The Classis of Amsterdam to Peter De Wint-Refusal to mitigate his sentence of deposition-Exhortation to him .3299, 3300


5 John Schuneman requests examination and ordination for Catskill-Granted 3300


11 Rev. Gerard Haeghoort to the Classis of Amsterdam-Com- plains of receiving no answer to letter and protest; and that Coetus has ordained Marinus for Aquackanonck, a part of his field; also complains of the action of Rev. Schlatter, in licensing Marinus-Can the Synods auth- orize Schlatter to do things not allowed by the Classis ?- Conduct of the German churches in Pennsylvania-Efforts to unite Dutch, Germans and Presbyterians-The Dutch recognized here, because a part of a National Church .... 3301


Nov. 22 Acts of the Deputies-Letters from Van Hoevenberg and the Consistory of Lower Rhinebeck, concerning disputes as to the regularity of Van Hoevenberg's papers. .... 3302-3304 27 Call of Thomas Romeyn to Oyster Bay and Jamaica. . 3304-3306


Dec.


5 Classis receives letter from De Wint. 3306


5 Classis of Amsterdam to the Coetus of New York-Letters received-The De Wind case further reviewed-Haeghoort's protest-Exhortation to unity-Action of Coetus on Aron- deus, confirmed-Fears concerning the churches on Long Island-Final attempt should be made to harmonize mat- ters-Plan proposed-Position of Classis concerning Van Hoevenberg .3306-3314


5 Classis of Amsterdam to Rev. John Arondeus-Last pro- posals-Exhortation to confession and peace .. . .


. . 3314-3316


5 Classis of Amsterdam to Rev. Ulpianus Van Sinderin- Anxiety of the Classis for the Long Island churches-Ex- hortation to agree to plans of Classis now proposed. . 3316-3318


5 Classis of Amsterdam to the Friends of Arondeus in the Five associated churches of Long Island-Sentence on Arondeus, by Coetus, approved; yet proposals for peace, 4 submitted-Exhortation to accept the plan . 3319-3322


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Dec. 5 Classis of Amsterdam to the Friends of Van Sinderin- Grief of Classis-Plan for reconciliation-Exhortation to reconciliation 3322-3325


5 Classis of Amsterdam to Rev. T. Frelinghuysen-Claverack and Van Hoevenberg 3326


5 Classis of Amsterdam to the Consistory of Rhinebeck- Their call of Van Hoevenberg-Their proper mode of pro- ceeding in his case 3327


5 The Classis of Amsterdam to the Consistory of Claverack- Advice concerning Van Hoevenberg. 3328, 3329


6 The Committee on the Muzelius case to the Classis of Amsterdam-Misconduct of Muzelius-Findings of the Committee .3329-3331


? Churches of Kings County-Claims of certain parties to be the legal Consistory 3331


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Jan. 4 A vindication of the excellent character of the Moravians in New York, by Hon. Wm. Livingston-Note on Wm. Livingston 3332, 3333


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9 Final examination and ordination of John Schuneman for Catskill-A letter to Rev. Knevels of St. Johns, approved. 3333 Letters from Van Hoevenberg, from the Consistory of Clav- erack, and T. Frelinghuysen were read, and answers ap- proved 3333, 3334


25 Church of New York-Request of domine De Ronde for expenses in coming to New York-Wants more house-rent ; or a better house-Also an increase in salary-Answer: Will allow more house-rent, but will not increase the salary at present-Reply of De Ronde to Consistory's answer, Feb. 1. . 3334-3336


Feb. 3 Jan Hegeman and Minnie Schenck to Thos. Romeyn-Urge him not to persevere in seeking to settle at Success (North Hempstead), L. I. 3336


March 8 Acts of the Deputies-Letter from Haaghoort concerning the ordination of Marinus, at the suggestion of Schlatter- The Synods do not understand American geography-The Germans may unite with the Presbyterians, although the Dutch and Presbyterians are more alike-Report on the Muzelius case considered. .3336-3338


22 Remarks on our intended College in New York-Shall it be sectarian or unsectarian? By Wm. Livingston-Im- portance of a College in or near the city-Greater import- ance of its constitution and government-Benefits will soon be seen on the Bench, at the Bar, in the Pulpit, in the Senate-Harvard and Yale partly under Presby- terian control-The youth imbibe the principles of the religious system of the College, and these affect the pub- lic administration-Episcopalians have no influence over those Colleges-The influence of institutions, respectively,


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in North and South Britain-Efforts of James II to intro- duce Jesuits in the Universities-See Nov. 25, 1751 .. 3338, 3339 Evils of a Sectarian College supported by public funds- All Protestant denominations should be on a parity-If the New York College becomes sectarian, other denomi- nations will oppose it-English and Dutch Presbyterians exceed all other denominations put together, but their children will not patronize a State-Church College-Bad effects of the principles of only one persuasion-Religious worship should be maintained, but not of one sect-A party College would make partizans and finally fill all offices of government-Other Christians could not peace- ably submit; for it would lead to an ecclesiastical estab- lishment, and prove destructive to the civil and religious rights of the people.


If supported by the public, it must not be sectarian- The Legislature had no such design-The money raised for it is public money-If sectarian, feuds would be raised- To ask for a partizan College is unpatriotic and arro- gant-The College must remain under the Legislature, so that the people may control it-A Public Academy is for the benefit of all-If founded on the plan of General Toleration, students from other provinces would seek its benefits-Inconsistent with good policy to give any one denomination ascendency . 3339-3341


April 2 Approval of book of Christopher Bussing-Classis receives letter from Committee of Coetus, on Rev. Muzelius and church of Tappan-Answer approved-Letter received from Rev. Haeghoort. 3341, 3342


2 Address of the Classis of Amsterdam to the German Churches-Labors of Classis in their behalf-Grief over their schisms-Lack of letters from Coetus may prevent donations-Importance of unity in the Coetus, and sub- mission to decisions, with right to appeal-Separatists will not receive donations-Donations are for deficiencies of salaries of ministers and schoolmasters and for pur- chase of books . 3342-3344


2 Classes of Amsterdam to Rev. Michael Schlatter-Complain of lack of correspondence-Separations among the Ger- mans-Coetus should have delegates from the elders- Schlatter should have a permanent charge-Necessity of pastors in Virginia-Reports of moneys and books from Holland, requested . 3344-3347


2 Classes of Amsterdam to Rev. Gerard Haeghoort-Case of Muzelius 3348, 3349


2 Classis of Amsterdam to Rev. George M. Weiss-Importance of peace and unity 3350


4 Rev. John Frelinghuysen to the Classis of Amsterdam- Troubles on Long Island-Queens County calls Thos. Romeyn-Proofs of the legality of this call 3351-3354


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1753. PAGE. April 5 Proper method of establishing a College to prevent it from being sectarian-Should not be by Royal Charter-Should be secure from abuses and perversions-A charter might be annulled in several ways and for divers reasons; or the Trustees might exceed their powers; or by choice of Teachers, undermine our liberties; or make the insti- tution the spoil of tyranny or bigotry; or the charter might be modified and perverted-But it must be endowed by the people-Their interests, civil and religious, must be protected-But if by charter, the civil and religious principles of the managers will be disseminated-Blind obedience, in Church and State might be the result-The Civil Government would have too great control-A char- ter cannot fully or wisely anticipate all the desirable changes of the future. 3354-3357


10 Daniel Bratt, parochial schoolmaster in New York .. 3357


12 Acts of the Deputies-Letter from the anti-Goetschius party, of Feb. 3, 1753, concerning the election of two rival Con- sistories-The judgment of the Classis desired ...... 3357-3359 12 The proper method of establishing a College, supported by the public funds, to prevent its becoming sectarian- Should be by Act of Legislature-Society's right to direct the education of its own youth-The Spartan system: education by the Commonwealth-Our Legislature should secure us against the designs of any one single Sect, with its contracted opinions-Our future officials should be men of broad principles.


The College should be founded and incorporated by Act of Assembly for the following reasons:


1. To be subject to inspection of the Civil Authority, and thus less liable to abuse-The outlay involved will require the united aid of the Public-If made of general interest to all it will be well supported-The funds already raised will not be allowed to go to sectarian ends- The Legislature will control its funds, and that body will be responsible to the people-But if a Royal Charter pre- vails, the funds raised might be used for other ends.


2. The objects to be attained by a College also show that it should be founded by Act of Assembly-It is to promote the general welfare of the community; to be a barrier against tyranny-Literary advantages are not for one set of men, but for society-A few private per- sons must not rule the whole community-Duty of the Legislature to guard all interests in every department of life-The College is designed to advance all these interests.


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be perverted by bigotry or tyranny-All parties need to be represented in its control.


The Governors of the College should be subject to the control of the Legislature-Improper ones could be removed, and true friends of learning could be appointed in their place-No one sect should control.


4. If established by Act of Assembly larger donations might be expected; but if by Charter, one sect will pre- vail, and all others would hold aloof-As to the legality of such an Act. . 3359-3362


April 19 The points desirable in a Legislative Act establishing a College to prevent sectarianism-The trustees should be appointed by the Legislature without regard to religious denomination-2. The President and Instructors should be chosen by the Trustees, subject to confirmation by the Legislature-3. The Trustees should make by-laws, subject to confirmation by the Legislature-4. Act of Incorporation should contain as many Rules, etc., as can be anticipated as necessary-5. No particular form of religion should be established in the College-6. Morn- ing and evening worship should be observed, under special scriptural Forms-7. There should be no Professor of Divinity in the College-8. The Library should be free to all, but no public theological debates be allowed- 9. All officers should be under oath to obey the Act, etc .- 10. No Legislative Acts should be passed contrary to this Act-11. Concerning the settlement of dis- putes . 3362-3365


26 An appeal to the inhabitants of New York against a Sec- tarian College-Previous papers on the best methods of establishing a College; and the desirable points in a Legislative Act-The dangers looming up-Power of Pub- lic Opinion against wrongs. Importance of boldly resist- ing oppression.


Appeal to members of the Church of England, as to their feelings, if excluded-Appeal to the members of the Dutch Church, with their glorious history of struggles against oppression -- Appeal to the members of the Presby- terian Church, with the remembrance of their sufferings- Appeal to the Quakers, and their struggles for liberty of conscience. Appeal to the members of the French Church, to Moravians, Lutherans, Baptists-General ap- peal to the citizens, not to allow one sect to dominate- Equal toleration, the basis of Liberty-Parity of all denominations demanded-The Legislature must control the College .3366-3369


May 7 Classis of Amsterdam-Address to Consistory of German- 1 town and Philadelphia. 3370


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7 Classis approves a letter to Rev. Haeghoort; receives a letter from Wernich of Stone Arabia; letter read from Jamaica ; answer approved; letter received from New York, with the Acts of Coetus of Sept. 1752-Answer 'approved. . 3370, 3371


7 Classis of Amsterdam to Rev. Haeghoort of Second River- Reference to examination of Marinus, and union of Ger- mans and Presbyterians .3371, 3372


7 Classis of Amsterdam to Coetus of New York-Rejoices in their harmony-Endorses their examination and ordina- tion of Marinus-Affairs at Jamaica-Admonitions to love and peace-Approves advice of Coetus to Van Sinderin to visit all the families-Grief over Arondeus-De Wind case ended-Classis permits separation of New Paltz from Kingston, and have ordained Vrooman to New Paltz, and the two Frelinghuysens to their fields; also Schuneman for Catskill-Grief over Muzelius. 3372-3375


7 Classis of Amsterdam to the Brethren in Queens County- Grief over trouble at Jamaica-No appeal has reached Classis-Exhortation to peace .3375-3377


7 Classis of Amsterdam to the Deputies of the Synods of North and South Holland (as to the right of licensing and ordaining in the East Indies; same principle applicable to America ) 3377-3381


30 Gov. Clinton praises the Legislative Assembly for their efforts to establish a Seminary, (College) . 3382


June


7 Charter of the Five Churches on the Raritan, viz., New Brunswick, Raritan, Six Mile Run, Millstone, (Harlingen) and North Branch, (Readington) 3382-3384


15 Lottery Bill for raising £1125 for a College in New York- Enacted by House-See Nov. 15, 25, 1751; July 4, 1753. .. 3384


25 Rev. John Frelinghuysen to Classis of Amsterdam-Call of Thos. Romeyn-Call of William Jackson to Bergen, etc .- Suggestion that Calls should be first presented to Coetus- Would tend to peace. 3385


June


? Acts of the Deputies-Letter from Jamaica in opposition to the call of Thos. Romeyn : . 3386-3388


29 Rev. Samuel Johnson to the Archbishop of Canterbury-The Church and the College .3388, 3389


July


3 Acts of the Deputies-Letter from Oyster Bay and Jamaica, received-Arondeus had created troubles by constituting a rival Consistory-The Old Consistory had called the student, Thos. Romeyn. 3389


4 Act for raising £1125 for founding a College for advance- ment of learning in this colony-See Nov. 25, 1751; Dec. 12, 1753 . 3389-3394


4 An Act to continue the Duty on Excise, etc., until 1767, in order to pay £500 yearly for the support of the New York College 3394, 3395


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1753. July 16-17 Church of New York-Organists and Choristers-Manor of Fordham 3395-3397


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About call of Thos. Romeyn to Jamaica and Oyster Bay-To be ordained only for Oyster Bay; not to become minister at Jamaica until the legality of call to that place be set- tled by Coetus or Classis; that Frelinghuysen had no right to moderate this call; that all calls should be first sub- mitted to Coetus; that Coetus put forth efforts to reunite the four churches of Oyster Bay, Jamaica, Newtown and Hempstead .3397-3399


July


? Rev. Gideon Hawley's account of his journey to Onohoghg- wage-Indian school at Stockbridge patronized by the Mohawks-Hawley's visit to the Mohawks-Albany and Schenectady-Dutch churches in Schoharie-English mis- sionaries to the Mohawks-Indian interpreters-Col. John- son-Mohawk Chapel-Indian superstition-Fort Hunter and Schoharie-Services in Mohawk-The Susquehannah- Rest and Worship in the wilderness-Drunken Indians- Great Bend 3399-3405


July 31-Aug. 9 Synod of North Holland-Ordination of Schuneman for Catskill referred to-Pennsylvania affairs-Correspondence between the Pennsylvania Coetus and the Coetus of New York .3405, 3406


Aug. ? Rev. John Frelinghuysen to the Classis of Amsterdam- Deaths at sea by smallpox, of Revs. Jacobus and Ferdinand Frelinghuysen-Arrival of Vrooman and Schuneman- Henricus Frelinghuysen about to sail to Holland for ordi- nation, but requests that Coetus may ordain him-Argu- ments : Four of the Frelinghuysens have risked their lives to obtain ordinations in Holland; one left; he is well educated; churches are waiting for him; Coetus cannot ask, as not now in session .3406, 3407


7,9 Church of New York-Manor of Fordham-Desire to make it free-Terms of bequest-Importance of selling it-Legisla- tive consent needed .3407-3409


Sept. 2 Agreement signed by Thos. Romeyn-Letters approved, to Frelinghuysen, the Coetus, and protesting members at Jamaica-Letters received, per South Holland Synod, from Revs. Lischy, Weiss, Leydich, and Mr. Chandler of Eng- land-Final examination and ordination of Thos. Romeyn.


3409, 3410


3 Special stipulations required of Thos. Romeyn, when called to Oyster Bay and Jamaica. . 3410, 3411


3 The Classis of Amsterdam to the Coetus-Jamaica and Thos. Romeyn-Calls should be first approved by the Coetus, or by neighboring ministers . 3411, 3412,


11-20 Acts of the Coetus-New subscriptions to Rules of Coetus- Letters read-Van Sinderen reported prospects of peace- Plan of Peace for Kings County-Letter of Coetus to the


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churches-Arondeus deposed-The Plan given to the parties-The Jamaica case-The case of Hackensack and Goetschius-Rev. Muzelius and Tappan-Application of Wernich of Stone Arabia-Protest from adherents of Arondeus-Call from Bergen on Rev. Wm. Jackson- Appeal of Arondeus 3413-3417


Sept. 11 One of the Consistories at Jamaica, to the Coetus, about the legality of their election 3418


11 Protest against the call of Thos. Romeyn. 3419


12 Confirmation by Coetus of the sentence against Arondeus. 3419, 3420


18 Protest by friends of Arondeus against the confirmation of the sentence 3420


19 Answer of the Coetus to the protest of Jamaica.


3421


19 The Coetus of New York to the Classis of Amsterdam- Death of the brothers, Frelinghuysen, at sea-Vrooman and Schuneman have been installed. . 3421, 3422


20 Rev. Theodore Frelinghuysen of Albany to Classis of Amster- dam-Death of his two brothers-Consistory of Albany still refuse to join the Coetus-Consistory refuse to allow him to leave the place-Allusion to Claverack and Van Hoevenberg-This letter sent by hand of Wm. Jackson, who goes to study; has been called to Staten Island and Bergen 3422, 3423


20 Answer of Coetus to the Protest of Arondeus. 3423-3427


27 Was the Church of England ever established in New York ?- This point often argued-Episcopalians take


it for granted-All others (the great majority) deny it-Burden of proof belongs on the other side-This point waived :


I. Laws of the Mother Country apply to Colonies so far as they are necessary or applicable, for the protection of Society.


1. But laws relating to a Religious Establishment not necessary nor applicable.


2. Many laws inconsistent with the circumstances of a colony, as the tithes and the land tax-The colonists emi- grated to secure exemption from these very laws.


3. If the colonists must carry the established religion with them, it might still have been paganism, or popery- Protestants could not urge such arguments.


4. Was the Church of England established by specific Act or by Common Law-Not by the latter, for the Com- mon Law is simply " Immemorial Custom "-Extends back to Richard 1, 1199-But the present "English Establish- ment " goes back only to Queen Anne, 1706.


II. Does the Act of 1706 extend to the Colonies ?- This was an Act for the Union of England and Scotland-Scot- land, before the Union, passed an Act establishing the Presbyterian Church in Scotland, and made this an es-


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sential part of the Act of Union-England passed a similar Act to secure the Church of England-Each acknowledged the other-Act of England was not to enlarge, but to secure the Church of England-It was the Settlement of the Church of England as by Law established, in Eng- land, Ireland, Wales, etc., and the Territories-But the Territories are not the Plantations or Colonies-This dis- tinction always recognized-Religion, in the Colonies, was left to the wisdom of the Proprietors or to individuals- The different Colonies established differing Forms of relig- ion-Freedom in religion the basis of the Plantations- This acknowledged in the Charters to the Colonies-The Contests of the times-Kings College, N. Y., in History of Trinity Church 3427-3432


Oct.


1 Classis approves a letter to Peter De Wind. 3433


1 Classis of Amsterdam to Peter De Wind. 3433, 3434


4 Church of New York-Manor of Fordham-Consistory re- quests the ministers to stay away from Coetus. 3435


5 Consistory of Bergen and Staten Island to the Classis of Amsterdam-Had carried out Classical order in reference to De Wind-Wm. Jackson has been called-Dreaded the long voyage for his ordination. 3435


ADMINISTRATION OF SIR DANVERS OSBORNE, BARONET. October 10, 1753-October 12, 1753.


ADMINISTRATION OF LIEUTENANT-GOVERNOR JAMES DE LANCEY. October 12, 1753-September, 1755.


Oct. 15 Rev. Theodore Frelinghuysen of Albany to Classis of Amster- dam-Affairs at Jamaica and Oyster Bay in reference to Thomas Romeyn's call-Small part that Rev. John Fre- linghuysen took in the matter-Arondeus the cause of the trouble Hopes the Classis will examine and ordain Romeyn 3436


25 His Opponents to Rev. Van Sinderen-Attempt to depose him 3437


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3 Request of the Church of Marbletown, etc., that Coetus would examine and ordain Henricus Frelinghuysen. ..


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3 Pledge of Rev. Thos. Romeyn to take the pastorate only of Oyster Bay, and not also of Jamaica, until the legality of his call there is settled. 3438, 3439


21 Petition of the Dutch Church of New York to the Governor, to be permitted to sell their land at Fordham, by bringing a Bill into the House for that purpose-Read in Council and granted-Advertisement-See Nov. 30, Dec. 12, 1753. 3439, 3440


26 The Coetus, (per Revs. Leydt, John Frelinghuysen and elder Henry Fisher), to the Classis of Amsterdam-Answer to the Protest of Arondeus 3440-3443


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Nov. 28 Adherents of Arondeus to the Classis of Amsterdam. . . 3443, 3444


30 Proposed Bill to allow the Dutch Church of New York to sell their Manor of Fordham; proposed amendment to their Charter-See Nov. 21 and Dec. 12, 1753. 3445


Dec. 3 Call of Rev. Henricus Frelinghuysen by the churches of Marbletown, Rochester and Wawarsing 3445, 3446 3446


12 An Act to raise £1125 by lottery for a College.


12 An Act to enable the Dutch Church of New York to dispose of their Manor of Fordham; and also certain amendments to their Charter-Conditions at the surrender, 1664- Legacy of Cornelius Steenwyck and wife of the Manor of Fordham to the Dutch Church of New York, for the benefit of the ministers, etc .- Amendment to Charter: May en- large Consistory; income of £200 may be increased to £1000; and general liberty given. . 3447-3451


Dec.


? Thanks of Consistory to Gov. De Lancey for signing Bill of Dec. 12. Note on the Manor of Fordham. Note on the early churches of Westchester County, N. Y.


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Dec.


? Church of Jamaica to the Classis of Amsterdam. . 3454-3456


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Note on "The Independent Reflector " by Hon. Wm. Livingston-Extract from Preface, relating to the estab- lishment of a College in New York-Extract from Preface relating to the Decline of the Dutch Church-Progress of the English language-Continued use of the Dutch in public worship-Duty of the Dutch to themselves-Opposition of Episcopalians to the use of English in Dutch church serv- ices-Slander of the Presbyterians-Exposure of these mis- representations-Efforts to prevent the union of Dutch and Presbyterians-Designs of the Church of England-De- sirability of several denominations to maintain religious freedom 3356-3460


Jan.


8 Classis of Amsterdam to the Coetus-Rev. Thos. Romeyn- Acts of Synod of North Holland sent. 3461


10 Acts of Deputies-Letter from the Arondeus Consistory of Queens County, protesting against the legalizing of the other Consistory by the Coetus . 3461-3465




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