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29. Revs. Ritzema and De Ronde to the Classis of Amsterdam - Their statement of the action of the Consistory on Oct. 7, about delegating elders to the Conferentie - Their at- tempted vindication of themselves in not consulting their elders, generally, in regard to the schism in the Church - Their attempted vindication of themselves against " lord- ing" over their brethren - The Consistory is attempting to "lord " it over the ministers - Domine Laidlie largely the cause of this - Denial that their effort to secure elders for the Conferentie was sprung upon the Consistory - Secret canvassings for votes for Consistorymen - Three German ministers, out of ten, in the Conferentie ... 4018-4021
31. Church of New York - Sale of vaults (in and about the Cedar Street Church) 4021
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1765. Nov. 11. Testimony of the Consistory of Kingston concerning the occurrences in a certain Consistory meeting. . . 4021, 4022
13. Rev. Hermanus Meyer to Revs. Ritzema and De Ronde - Surprised at their letter to the Kingston Consistory --- Intrusion into his church affairs - Demands their author- ity, divine or human? - Their real design, to assist mal- contents - His resolution not to join either party - Is doing the work of an evangelist - Will give no account of himself to them - May seek assistance from the other ministers against their intrusion - Discharges them from further responsibility concerning him. 4022, 4023
ADMINISTRATION OF SIR HENRY MOORE, NOV. 13, 1765-1769.
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Nov. 20. Consistory of New York - Address to Gov. Moore on his arrival - The Governor's reply . 4023, 4024
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3. Revs. Ritzema and De Ronde to the Consistory of Kingston - Grieved at the disorders in their church - Rev. Meyer has become an opponent - Have sent their last letter to Meyer and his Consistory and his reply to the Classis of Amsterdam - Cannot render Kingston much assistance on account of defection of certain parties - Danger of bring- ing Rev. Rysdyck into the same difficulties as Rev. Cock - Rev. Meyer guilty of schism for not joining the Conferen- tie, which is acknowledged by Classis - Subject to the censure of the Consistory therefor - Consistory must stand to their duty 4025
Other items in 1765 4026 1766.
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Classis receives letters from Revs. Ritzema, De Ronde, Laid- lie, and the Consistory of New York, dated September and October, 1765 4026, 4027
22. Church of New York -The Harpending lots. 4028
Jan. ? Acts of the Deputies - Abstract of a letter of Revs. Rit- zema and De Ronde of Oct. 22, 1765, with Abstract of Minutes of Conferentie, of Oct. 8-10, 1765 - Allusions to Revs. Blaaw and Meyer - Conferentie ministers sign anew the Fundamental Articles of the (old) Coetus of 1738 - Affairs at Kingston.
Abstract of letter of Opponents of English preaching in New York, dated Oct. 23, 1765 - Deplore existing confu- sion - Complain of insincerity in Ritzema, and that Laid- lie has turned against them - Will have recourse to Am- bassador in England - Complain that a second English- speaking minister is also to be called.
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Abstract of letter from Rev. Archibald Laidlie, of Oct. 26, 1765-Found dissensions existing - Resolved to re- main neutral.
Abstract of letter from Rev. De Ronde of Oct. 29, 1765 - Complains of the attitude of Rev. Laidlie and of Consist- ory of New York toward the Classis; willing to correspond, but not to be subordinate - Proposals to seek the interfer- enee of the English King against the Coetus .. 4028-4031 1. Rev. Warmoldus Kuypers to Classis of Amsterdam - from Curacoa 4031
Feb.
2. Church of New York - Receipt for 595 guilders, for set of music types - Old Church to be repaired - No more dead to be buried there. 4031, 4032
3. Charges of the church of Kingston against Rev. Meyer, de- livered to the Consistory, with certain Papers, etc ... 4032-4035
3. Request of the Consistory of Kingston for a meeting of cer- tain ministers and elders to examine charges against Rev. Meyer 4035
5. Rev. John Ritzema to Classis of Amsterdam - Church of North Branch (Readington ) - Rev. Aemilius declines to come - Call of Readington holds good for some one else - Its very favorable terms - Question as to early minis- ters of New York - Recommends aid for German church. 4036- 4038
5. German chureli, New York City - Request financial help from Classis of Amsterdam for cost of church building .... 4038 4039
11. Rev. Isaac Rysdyk to Rev. H. Meyer - Requests him to ap- pear before Revs. Fryenmoet, Cock and himself to answer charges of his Consistory 4039
12. Rev. H. Meyer to Revs. Rysdyk, Fryenmoet and Cock - Would be happy to appear if their Convention were a law- ful and impartial one. 4039
12. Consistory of Kingston makes their complaint against Rev. Meyer to the Convention which they called .. 4039, 4040
12. The protest of twenty-six members of the church to Messrs. Fryenmoet, Cock and Rysdyk, against the legality of their Meeting - New Paltz, the nearest church, not invited - Rev. Meyer willing to appear before a lawful Convention - Present Convention unlawful and partial. 4040
12, 13. Meeting of three ministers and eight elders, at King- ston to try Rev. H. Meyer for certain alleged offences - Names of members present - Reading of the invitation of Consistory, of Feb. 3 - Petition of church members com- płaining of Rev. Meyer - The complaints, in general : His refusal to be subordinate to the Classis of Amsterdam - In particular : 1. Despising brotherly admonitions; 2. Breaking promises to act in harmony with the Con-
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sistory; 3. Rejecting a request of the Consistory to ac- knowledge "subordination to the Classis "; 4. Contemp- tuous answer to Consistory, respecting a letter of Revs. Ritzema and De Ronde; 5. Not fulfilling the terms of his call, exciting schism, etc.
Rev. Meyer refuses to acknowledge the legality or im- partiality of the body - Trial proceeds without him - Charges 1, 2, 3, had been proved on Oct. 10, 1764 - His refusal to send letter to Rev. Ritzema on his subordination -Reasons: his civil oath - His contemptuous conduct toward the Classis of Amsterdam and the Conferentie of Oct. 5-8, 1765 - Caused discord and strife - Small re- sults of his ministry - Refused to obey citation - Pro- nounced guilty of schism and contempt of ecclesiastical advice - Fears as to the welfare of the Church and their civil (charter) rights, if not subordinate to Classis - Church of Kingston is subordinate - Proofs - Rev. Meyer attempting to introduce independence of the Church of Holland - Suspended for six weeks; if not then penitent, to remain under censure until the Classis of Amsterdam gives its decision. 4041-4045 13. Letter of the Convention to Rev. Meyer, informing him of their decision, his suspension, etc. 4045
Feb.
13. Rev. Hermanus Meyer's reply - The untruths of their letters - His solemn protest against their unlawful proceedings
- Requests not an imperfect extract, but the full minutes of their Convention 4046
Mar. 14. Church of New York. 4046
18. Petition of the Presbyterians of New York to the King for a charter - Origin of the Wall Street church - Purchase of land by trustees (including certain officials in Scot- land) - Increase of the church - Majority of the inhabit- ants, Dutch and English, are Presbyterians; Gospel sup- ported by voluntary contributions; necessity of incorpora- tions; incorporations of churches of all denominations in New Jersey; applications to Governors have been refused, hence this application to the King 4046-4048
Apr.
7. Classis receives letters from Rev. Laidlie; from Consistory of New York, answer approved; and one from the German church of New York. 4049
7. Classis of Amsterdam to the Conferentie - Hopes their let- ter to the Coetus of June 3, 1765, will convince them of the futility of their plans; glad the supply of ministers is so sufficient - Reference to possible union of the Coetus and Princeton in calling a Professor - Refusal of the Consist- ory of New York to appoint elders to the Conferentie - The elders' complaint that they have been ignored for years - Their right to counsel - Classis refuses to erase the names of the Coetus ministers from their Register -
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References to the disaffection existing - Admonition to gentleness - Rev. Meyer subject to the Classis - Admoni- tion not to be too determined on technicalities - Refer- ence to De Ronde preaching in English - Misunderstand- ing of Classis about the Charter of Church of New York - The civil oath - Lawsuit against the Coetus disapproved - Private meetings - Letters from the "Duteh Party " - De Ronde's book 4049-4053
April 7. Classis of Amsterdam to Rev. Archibald Laidlie - Refer- enees to his explanations of his course of action toward the two parties - Ilis determination to remain neutral - Objectionable features in the Conferentie party - The let- ters of the Consistory of 1754 and 1765 as to their atti- tude - The request of the Classis that he would cor- respond, meant " subordination " - Proofs - Classis does not wish to exercise " lordship " - Classis desires only to assist those churches which are oppressed, or disturbed in their rights, ecclesiastical or civil - Exhortation to confer with the Conferentie. 4053-4056
7. The Classis of Amsterdam to certain members of the Con- sistory of New York - Elders will not attend the Con- ferentie meetings, but hold themselves to the old régime - But the Conferentie brethren are subordinate - Should unite, therefore, with them - They are charged with ambi- tion - But it is not ambition to resist those who seek to break the Church Order - Withdrawal from Classis en- dangers church property - Doubt as to their meaning about " permitting Ritzema to cease attending Conferen- tie meetings " - He must attend - Disrespectful remarks about De Ronde - The electors of Consistory, according to the Charter - The contradictory position of the Consist- ory in keeping away from the meetings of the Conferentie - Exhortation to attend those meetings 4056-4058
17. Rev. Samuel Seabury to the Society for Propagating the Gospel - Loss of missionaries by shipwreck. Dangers of the voyage - necessity of Bishops in America - Dangers of fanatical seets 4058
12. Church of New York - Repairing the old church (Garden Street )- Rev. De Ronde wants more money for house rent 4059
12. Classis receives letters from Rev. W. Kuypers of Curacoa, and from Rev. Ritzema. 4059
17. Petition of Rev. G. D. Cock to Gov. Moore - His call and settlement at Camp - Labored to promote religion - Dis- pute at Kingston; invitation to help settle it - Forced to take a civil oath under penalty, though guilty of no mis- demeanor - Said officer had no authority thus to act, but this was done for partizan church reasons - Said official exceeded his authority and should be punished . 4059. 4060
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June 2. Classis of Amsterdam to Rev. Warmoldus Kuypers .. 4061
17, 26, July 2. Church of New York - Repairing the Old Church - Income from property sufficient to pay the sal- aries of the Dutch ministers, without subscription .. 4061, 4062
July 3. Rev. Lambertus De Ronde to the Classis of Amsterdam - His occasional preaching in English - Does not interfere with his duties to his Dutch congregation - Has given up meetings in private houses - His suspected un-orthodoxy - Does not know of any effort to call a Professor in con- junction with Princeton. 4062-4065
9. German Church of New York - Rev. Kern presented a statement of the rise and progress of the German church in this city - Account sent to London. 4065
10. Church of New York - Repairs of Old Church. 4065
22. Articles of accusation against the Elders and Deacons of
the Dutch Church of New York - Ministers deny them ... 4065 4066
Synodalia - Examination of the Minutes of the Synod by the Classis - Good wishes to the House of Orange - Nothing relating to New York, etc. 4066
29. Lords of Trade to Gov. Moore - Refer the "Petition of the Presbyterians to the King for a Charter " to the Governor of New York for his opinion, etc. 4067
July 29-Aug. 7. Synod of North Holland - Pennsylvania churches warned not to organize Classes - Act of 1763 relating to New York and New Jersey 4067
Aug. 5. Church of New York - Repairs to the Old Church ... 4067, 4068 13. Opponents of Rev. Meyer to the Classis of Amsterdam - Rev. Meyer had called a meeting of all the Dutch churches for May 8, 1766 - Only members of the Coetus attended - Acts of the Kingston Consistory (October, 1765) con- demned and Rev. Meyer justified - Call sent for another minister for Kingston. 4068
20. Church of New York - Repairs of the Old Church 4068
21. Rev. Meyer to Classis of Amsterdam - Complains of the ill- treatment of the Consistory, and of Cock, Fryenmoet, etc. - Private answer to be sent. 4068
23. Cornelius Clopper of New York to Classis of Amsterdam about minister for Kingston. 4069
25. Church of New York - Marriage with deceased wife's sister condemned . 4069
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1. Classis receives letters from Rev. Rysdyk. and Rev. Meyer .. 4069 Oct. 2. Church of New York - Attempt to make peace in the congregation of New York. 4069, 4070
Oct. 6. Classis approves a letter to Rev. Isaac Rysdyk. 4070
6. Classis of Amsterdam to Rev. Isaac Rysdyk - Documents relating to the Meyer trial had been received - Action of the Convention censuring Meyer ratified - If he continues to refuse subordination should be removed, and another
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put in his place - Yet the brethren should try to win him, as his character is excellent - Meyer will be privately written to 4070, 4071
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9. 15. Church of New York- 12 Artieles proposed by the Consistory to settle the dispute in said church; 10 Arti- cles presented by the Dutch Party. . 4071-4073
16, 21. Church of New York - Possible for the parties to unite under moderate counsels - Election of new Con- sistory, according to usage, and the Charter, by the Old Consistory - Repairs . 4073, 4074
Nov. 10. First Charter of Queen's College. 4074
11. Petition for a Charter for the Dutch churches of Marble- town, etc., in Ulster County. 4074, 4075
24. Church of New York - Publication of bans of marriage - Record of baptisms - The organ - Psalm books. .. 4075
Dec.
2. Classis receives letters from Rev. Fryenmoet and Coek; also from Rev. Meyer 4076
S, 15. Church of New York - Repairs - 1800 English Psalın- books with the catechism and Liturgy, to be published .. .. 4076
22. Revs. Fryenmoet, Cock and Rysdyk to the Classis of Amster- dam, respecting churches of Rhinebeck and Red Hook - A new call sent to Holland - Minister must be anti- Coetus - No Conferentie meeting in fall of 1766, on ae- count of opposition of Coetus party in the churches - Would not allow appointment of Elders - Opposition of Rev. Laidie and New York Consistory - Affairs at King- ston - Ask that ordinations may be performed in America - New Church organized at Red Hook 4076. 4077
Other items in 1766 .4077, 4078 1767.
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1, 15. Appointment of John Montayne as sexton, etc .- Duties in respect to church services in general; duties in behalf of the Consistory; duties in connection with funerals - Terms of the contract - Baptisms, etc. . .
4078-4080
4. Rev. Hermanus Meyer to the ministers who had attempted to censure lin - Their sentence annulled by an Assembly of the American Church. 4080
Feb.
5. The Convention which tried Rev. Meyer, per Rev. Isaac Rysdyk, to the Classis of Amsterdam - Had received Classical letter of Oct. 6, 1766; had tried to placate Rev. Meyer, but in vain - Had sent over a call from Kingston for another minister. 4080, 4081
17. Further efforts of the Presbyterians for a church charter - Desire to submit facts to the Governor 4081
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Thirteen members of the Church of New York to the Classis of Amsterdam - Their letter to Consistory of April 7, 1766, was received - Not an answer to Consistory's letter of Oct. 20, 1765 - Classis misinformed by Rev. De Ronde - Requests Classis to compare it with letter from Rev.
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Ritzema and Laidlie - Lawsuit against the Consistory, by the "Dutch Party," decided against them - Rev. Laidlie's successful ministry - Another church building needed . 4081, 4082
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Church of New York - A committee requested to try to make peace with the "Dutch Party ". 4082, 4083 History of attempts to secure Church Charters (in part) - Requests from the Lutherans, New York City, Feb. 8, 1759; from the Presbyterians, New York City, March 30, 1759; from the Dutch Church of Orange (Tappan), Feb. 9, 1763; from the French Church, New York City, March 16, 1763; second petition from the Lutherans, Sept. 9, 1763, and rejected - Only Reformed Dutch and Episcopa- lian churches have received Charters - Presbyterian ap- plication rejected - Notes: An Episcopate in America; William Livingston's opinion; Bishop White on Sectarian Jealousies in the Colony in 1767 - See Aug. 26, 1767 .... 4083 4084
Apr. 4. Call for a meeting of the Trustees of Queen's College, ap- pointed by the Charter of Nov. 10, 1766. .. 4085, 4086
6. Classis approves letters to Surinam, New York (to the Conferentie), to Rev. Warmoldus Kuypers of Curacoa ... 4086
6. Classis of Amsterdam to the Conferentie - Sends Acts of Synod to them 4086, 4087
6. Classis of Amsterdam to Rev. Warmoldus Kuypers - Sends Acts of Synod 4087
27. Church of New York - Remains neutral in reference to the Coetus and Conferentie - Subscriptions for another church building 4087, 4088
4. Classis receives letters from New York, of Feb. 18, 1767; one from Fryenmoet, Kok and Rysdyk of Dec. 22, 1766, with a call from Kingston. 4088
5, 6. Acts of the Conferentie - Letter of Classis of April 7, 1765, read - Proposals for union with the Coetus -The Conferentie to the Coetus - The Coetus must subordinate itself to Classis; delegates to consider terms must have been regularly ordained; the treatment of others must be subsequently arranged for: future ordinations will be provided, for fit subjects - A joint meeting on tliese terms to be held in October - Nothing partizan to be done, meanwhile, on either side 4088, 4089 11, 25. Church of New York - Manor of Fordham - Third Church building 4089, 4090
June
9, 10. Gov. Moore to the Earl of Shelburne- Complaints of the Society for Propagating the Gospel, against the Gov- ernor, concerning their rights in certain lands in north- ern Vermont - Rights of the Church reserved - The Gov- ernor builds a church; townships laid out for Trinity Church and for Kings College 4090-4092
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June 12, 18. Church of New York -Third Church building [Fulton Street] . 4.093
July
Synodical congratulations to the House of Orange - New York and New Jersey 1093
6. Remonstrance of the "Dutch Party " against preaching in English presented to the Governor - Review of privileges of the Duteh Church, by terms of treaty, 1664; by charter of New York Church, 1696; and by Act of 1755 - Griev- ances: The English party petitioned for an English- speaking minister; protest against it, founded on 51st Artiele of Church Government; that by calling an Eng- lish minister they have broken the Constitution; they have forced a minister on a congregation against the will of a majority; that they have not legally laid out the moneys aecruing from the sale of lands of the Manor of Fordham; that the lands of Harpending lie waste, and part of them are to be used for building an English church; that Dutch cateehising had been forbidden; that Dutch education is neglected; that Dutch is not used in the forenoon service in the New Church (Cedar Street) ; that the English party is lording it over the Dutch party; that they are seeking to misappropriate the funds given for Dutch ministers to an English minister - They desire the Governor's decision and relief - (See Sept. 4) .. 4094, 4095
10. Report of the Lords of Trade against granting a Charter to the Presbyterian Church of New York City ( Wall Street). 4095 4096
21. Church of New York - The Dutch Party presented to the Consistory a copy of their petition of July 6 to the Gov. ernor - Building of a third church. 4096
July 28-Aug. 6. Synod of North Holland - Reformed German Church's views of the necessity of ordaining ministers in America - No report on New York. 4096-4098
Aug. 26. King's Order, in Council, dismissing the Petition of the Presbyterian Church for a charter -(See March 24, 1767). 4098 4099
Sept. 4, 10. Church of New York - Governor requires an answer of Consistory to the Complaint of the "Dutch Party," of July 6 - Such answer to be made. 4099, 4100
7. Classis approves letters concerning Poughkeepsie; to the Convention at Kingston; to the Consistory of New York .. 4100 Classis of Amsterdam to the Consistory of Curacoa - Request information about Rev. Warmoldus Kuypers .... 4100 6, 7. Acts of the Conferentie - The ease of Van Hoevenberg - The answer of the Coetus to the proposals for union un- satisfactory to the Conferentie - Ministers requested for North Branch (Readington) and Tappan - Letter ap- . proved to the Classis 4101, 4102
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7. The Conferentie to the Classis of Amsterdam - Reference to their efforts for union with the Coetus - Surprise at no allusion by the Classis to the calls made - Reference to the divided churches - Their plan of a Professor in Kings College versus the plan of the Coetus for a Pro- fessor in a College in New Jersey, prepared by the Uni- versity of Utrecht - Rev. Cornelius Blaaw has united with the Conferentie - Revs. Westerlo and Boelen are not allowed to join by their people. 4102, 4103
Nov.
15. Church of New York - New Consistory elected. 4103
9. Church of New York - Request by the Governor for answer to the complaint of the Dutch Party made July 6, 1767 - Title page and Preface to the Psalm Book adopted .. 4103, 4104 11. Answer to the Remonstrance of the Dutch Party, of July 6 - Facts relating to the call of an English-speaking min- ister - Charter of 1696- Consistory has always elected their own successors - This never questioned until 1762 - Disuse of Dutch language and loss to the church - Necessity of Preaching in English - Petition of 265 per- sons to call an English minister, subject to the Dutch Constitution - Consultation with Great Consistory - Advised to call such minister on condition he should be supported by voluntary contributions, and not from the estates given for Dutch ministers - Subscription largely in excess of necessity.
Consistory then sought advice from Classis of Amster- dam, according to custom, although living in English do- minions - The Dutch Party protested against the de- signs of the Consistory, although many names in his Pro- test were of doubtful origin - They also complained to the Classis of Amsterdam - The Classis approved the plans of the Consistory, and wrote to the Dutch Party that their opposition was ill-advised - This advice kept secret - Only then was Rev. Mr. Laidlie called, and the results have been highly favorable-The Dutch Party then claimed the right to vote for Consistorymen - Upon re- fusal, began a suit, but the verdict was against them; yet now petition the Governor.
Their reference to Article 51 unjust - Had only refer- ence to the French refugees - Their reference to Article 86 is misleading - No minister has been forced upon the church - The Consistory has invested most of the pro- ceeds of the Manor of Fordham in real estate; the rest is secure, waiting for opportunities - The reference to non- catechising in Dutch not true; as well as that about the Dutch School; also about two English services in the new church - The facts of the case - One Consistory acts for
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both parties - The Dutch Party only one fourth of the whole - Other explanations - Proceedings of the Consist- ory have all been perfectly regular.
The petition of the Dutch Party dismissed, Nov. 11, 1767, in Council -(See April 26, 1765) 4104-4108
Nov. 2S. Classis of Amsterdam to the Consistory of New York, or thirteen members of the same - In reply to their letter of Feb. 18 - Rejoiced that discords are ceasing; that the lawsuit has resulted in favor of Consistory; that the work of Rev. Laidlie was prospering. 4108
28. Classis of Amsterdam to the Revs. Fryenmoet, Kok and Rysdyk - Hope that all the disputes may cease - Seek- ing to fill the call for a minister from the churches of the Flats and Red Hook - Classis is not willing to allow ordinations in America 4109
Dec.
28. Classis of Amsterdam to the Rev. Conventus held at King- ston - Case of Rev. Meyer - Approve of his removal from Kingston - Will seek to supply his place .... 4109, 4110 3. Sir Wm. Johnson to the Earl of Shelburne - Missionaries for the Indians - Prospect of a Bishopric in America. . . 4110
17. Church of New York - Accounts for printing the first Psalm Book in English. 4110
Lutheran Church in New York City from 1767 to 1850. 4110
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