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Aug. 31. Hugh Gaine to Sir Wm. Johnson. Doc. Hist. N. Y. iv. 260.
Nov. 15. Jas. Adair, Esq. to Sir Wm. Johnson. Doc. Hist. N. Y. iv. 262.
Nov. 16. Geo. Croghan to Sir Wm. Johnson. Doc. Hist. N. Y. iv. 263.
Nov. 18. Secretary Banyar to Sir Wm. Johnson. Doc. Hist. N. Y. iv. 264.
Dec. 10. Rev. Andrews to Sir Wm. Johnson. Doc. Hist. N. Y. iv. 264.
Similar items, 1770-1774, in Doc. Hist. N. Y. 4to. ed. Vol. iv. 264-322.
ACTS OF THE CLASSIS OF AMSTERDAM.
J. H. LIVINGSTON.
1770, Jan. 9th. Art. 4. The candidate, John H. Livingston again declared, that he had written to the Consistory at New York, but had as yet received no letters; that as soon as he received a reply he would make known his decision to the Rev. Classis as to the call to that church, which has been sent to him. xiv. 216.
NEW YORK AND NEW JERSEY.
Classis proposes to hand over the whole business to Synod.
Section 8. It was resolved, in accordance with the resolution adopted July 17, 1769, that inasmuch as the majority of the Classes have not given us as free a hand to act in pursuance of the Symod's resolution,-to give over the whole business to the Synod ; and also to write the same to the Assemblies in New York, to the Coetus, to the Conferentie, and to the Consistory of New York. The draft of such a letter was read, which shall be forwarded. xiv. 216.
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KINGSTON.
Section 9. It was further resolved to send (return) the call of Kingston, to Mr. Klopper; and the letter written to him, was read and approved. xiv. 216.
THE CLASSIS OF AMSTERDAM TO THE COETUS; TO THE CON- FERENTIE; AND TO THE CONSISTORY OF NEW YORK. JAN. 9, 1770. VOL. 31, PAGE 331. No. 197.
Rev. Sirs and Beloved Brethren :-
On Sept. 4, 1769 we wrote to you that the Christian Synod of North Holland had authorized our Classis to treat with you, in its name, in order to effect such harmony among you as should be mutually satisfactory ; but this resolution of Synod, was subject to the approbation of the Classes, whose replies we awaited.
We have now received advices from all the Classes, but have found them such that nothing can be done by us before the holding of the Synod, when this subject will be further handled. We can, therefore, tell you nothing, as yet, of the result. We send herewith, only to the Conferentie, the Minutes of the Synod held at Edam, in 1769.
Hoping that the God of peace may be with your Assembly, congregations and persons, and may give you peace at all times and in every way, we sign ourselves, Peter Curtenius, Dep. Praeses. Daniel Serrurier, Dep. Scriba.
Amsterdam, Jan, 9, 1770.
THE CLASSIS OF AMSTERDAM TO MR. CORNELIUS KLOPPER OF NEW YORK, JAN. 9, 1770. VOL. 31, P. 332. No. 198.
Worthy Sir :-
In reply to your letter of May 12, 1769, we are obliged to say with sorrow, that, notwithstanding all our efforts to find an able Pastor for the church of Kingston, we have not succeeded. The number of candidates who wish to go across the sea is very small. We cannot even find a sufficient number for the Colonies of our own state, (viz. Netherlands), and must often wait long before we can fill such vacant place.
We are therefore obliged to send back the request of Kingston, with their (blank) call-neither can we comply with the request to send a written dismissal of Rev. Meyer at present. For we greatly desire and have a little hope that the brethren of the Coetus and Conferentie Assemblies may be pacified, and unite with each other ; and we fear that a dismission sent now might possibly give new occasion for estrangement. We hope that when the Union of all the brethren shall take place, that that Union Body may be able to settle everything to the satisfaction of everybody, including the affairs of the Church of Kingston.
We kindly request you to communicate this to the Church at Kingston, or to send them this letter with the (returned) call, even as you had the goodness to communicate to us their letter to you.
Wishing God's most precious blessing upon that Church, as well as upon your person and family, we have the honor to sign ourselves, etc., etc.
(Signed as above)
Amsterdam,
Jan 9, 1770.
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Various Efforts to repeal or amend the Ministry Act of 1693. Defeated.
1770, Jan. 8. "A petition of several of the Freeholders in behalf of themselves and others, in the county of Albany, was presented to the house and read, praying that a Bill may be brought in to repeal the act (Sept. 1693) which compels per- sons of all denominations in the counties of Westchester, New York, Queens and Richmond, to pay to the clergymen of churches to which they do not belong, and for other purposes."
"Ordered, That the said petition be referred to a Committee of the whole house."
1770, Jan. 25. "Mr. De Witt from the Committee of the whole house, to whom was referred the Bill entitled, "An Act to exempt the inhabitants of the counties of Westchester, New York, Queens and Richmond, from any taxation for the support of the ministers of churches to which they do not belong, reported the proceedings of the Committee to have been in manner following, viz.
"That after having read the first clause of said Bill, Capt. De Lancey moved that the words, "except such as are or profess themselves to be of the Episcopal denomination, and more frequently or ordinarily attend divine service, according to the rights of the Church of England," be struck out of the said clause, and the question being put therein, it was carried in the affirmative in the manner following, viz.
Affirmative
Mr. De Lancey
Mr. Nicholl
Mr. Ten Broeck
Mr. Seaman
Mr. Walton
Mr. Wynderse
Mr. Philips
Mr. Gale
Mr. Van Cortlandt
Capt. De Lancey
Mr. Clinton
Col. Woodhull
Capt. Seaman.
Mr. Speaker then moved that the Bill be rejected; After debate it was carried in the negative.
Negative: De Noyellis, Gale, Clinton, Col. Schuyler, Ten Broeck, Ten Eyck, Wynderse, Van Kleeck, Col. Philips, Col. Seaman, De Lancey, Van Cortlandt, Jauney, Rapalji, Kissam, Capt. Seaman, Col. Woodhull, Nicholl, Billot.
Affirmative: Mr. Speaker, Walton, Capt. De Lancey.
Col. Schuyler made the following motion:
"I move that so much of the Bill as is contained between the word "same" in the second line, and the word "and" in the eighth line, be struck out and the following be substituted in lieu thereof, viz. "That all such person or persons, as are not in communion with the Church of England, shall, for and after the publi- cation of this act, be exempt and they are hereby exempted, from paying any part of the said tax; and that such proportion of said tax as has been annually paid by persons, not being in communion with the Church of England, shall not in future be raised in any of the said counties, or on any part of the inhabitants thereof, anything in the said aet to the contrary notwithstanding;" which passed in the affirmative.
Mr. De Witt then reported the amendments which had been made, and delivered the Bill with the amendments, in at the table when the same were again read and agreed to by the house.
Ordered, That the Bill with the amendments be engrossed.
1770, Jan. 26. The engrossed Bill was read the third time and passed.
Ordered, That Mr. De Witt and Mr. Ten Broeck do carry the Bill to the Council and desire their concurrence thereto.
Mr. Thomas
Mr. Speaker
Mr. Ten Eyck
Mr. Billot
Mr. Van Kleeck
Mr. Kissam
Mr. De Noyellis
Mr. Boeram
Negative Col. Schuyler
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1770, Jan. 27. Capt. Seaman made a motion to request the Council, to acquaint this house what progress they have made in the Bill entitled, An Act to exempt the inhabitants of the counties of Westchester, etc. from any taxation for the support of ministers of churches to which they do not belong .- Capt. Seaman and Col. Schuyler were sent to make the inquiry.
Ans. It had been read once, and ordered to a second reading.
[See April 20, 1777, and April 17, 1784.]
SLIGHT AMENDMENT TO THE MINISTRY ACT OF 1693. CHANGE OF TIME FOR ELECTING OFFICERS.
JOURNAL OF THE NEW YORK ASSEMBLY.
1770, Jan. 11. " Capt. De Lancey moved for leave to bring in a Bill, to amend an act, entitled, "An act for settling a ministry, and raising a maintenance for them in the city of New York, county of Richmond, Westchester and Queens counties, so far as the same relates to the city and county of New York."
" Ordered, That leave be given accordingly."
1770, Jan. 12. De Lancey presented his Bill, as proposed above, which was read the first time and ordered a second reading.
1770, Jan. 16. The above Bill was read the second time, and committed to a Committee of the whole house.
1770, Jan. 24. " Capt. De Lancey, from the Committee of the whole house to whom was referred the Bill entitled "An act for settling a ministry and raising a mainte- nance for them in the city of New York, county of Richmond, Westchester and Queens counties, so far as the same relates to the city and county of New York," -- reported that they had gone through the Bill, altered the title and made several amendments thereto, which they had directed him to report in his place, and after- ward delivered the Bill with the amendments, in at the table, where the same were again read and agreed to by the house."
" Ordered, That the Bill with the amendments be engrossed."
1770, Jan. 25. " The engrossed bill, entitled, "An Act to amend an act entitled, "An act for settling a ministry and raising a maintenance for them in the city of New York, county of Richmond, Westchester and Queens counties; and an act entitled, "An Act to enable the inhabitants of the city of New York, to choose annually two Vestrymen for each respective ward within the said city, so far as the same relates to the election of Church Wardens and Vestrymen of the city of New York, was read the third time."
" Resolved, That the Bill do pass."
" Ordered, That Capt. De Lancey and Mr. Nicholl, do carry the Bill to the Council, and desire their concurrence thereto.
JOURNAL OF THE NEW YORK COUNCIL.
1770, Jan. 25. C. Colden, Governor.
The Assembly sent to the Council a Bill entitled, "An act to amend an Act entitled, An Act for settling a ministry and raising a maintenance for them in the city of New York, county of Richmond, Westchester and Queens counties ; And an Act entitled, "An Act to enable the inhabitants of the city of New York to choose annually two Vestrymen for each respective ward within the said city, so far as the same relates to the election of Church Wardens and Vestrymen of the city of New York," and desired the concurrence of the Council. Council Journal, 1743. Read and ordered to a second reading, 1743. Committed, p. 1744. Reported and read the third time, and passed, and Assembly notified, p. 1745. Enacted, p. 1750.
1770, Jan. 26. A message from the Council by the Hon. Henry Cruger, Esq., acquainting this house that the Council have passed the following Bill without any amendment, viz.,
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The Bill entitled "An Act to amend an act entitled, "An Act for settling a ministry and raising a maintenance for them in the city of New York, county of Richmond. Westchester and Queens counties ; and an act entitled, an act to enable the inhabitants of the city of New York, to choose annually two vestrymen for each respective ward within the city, so far as the same relates to the election of the Church Wardens of the city of New York. See Jan. 27.
PROPOSED ACT TO EXEMPT PROTESTANTS FROM COMPULSORY CHURCH RATES. DEFEATED.
JOURNAL OF THE NEW YORK ASSEMBLY.
1770, Jan. 12.
" Mr. Thomas from the Committee of the whole house, to whom was referred the bill entitled, " an act to exempt protestants of all denominations from paying any clergyman by compulsory taxation," reported, that they had gone through the bill, and made several amendments thereto, which they had directed him to report to the house, and he read the report in his place, and afterward delivered the bill, with the amendments, in at the table, where the same were again read and agreed to by the house."
1770, Jan 13. Die Sabatii.
" The engrossed bill, entitled " an act to exempt protestants of all denominations from paying any clergyman by compulsory taxation," was read the third time." " Resolved, That the bill do pass."
" Ordered, That Mr. Thomas and Mr. Rapalje, do carry the bill to the Council, and desire the concurrence thereto."
1770, Jan. 24.
Mr. Clinton made the following motion :
" I move that a message may be sent to the Council, desiring them to acquaint this house what progress they have made in the bill entitled, "an act to exempt protestants of all denominations from paying any clergyman by compulsory taxation," sent up to them on the 13th inst."
" Ordered therefore, That Col. Schuyler and Mr. De Witt wait upon the Council, and desire that they will acquaint this house, what progress they have made in the said bill."
1770, Jan. 25.
"A message from the Council by the Hon. Roger Morris, Esq., acquainted this house, in answer to their message of yesterday, desiring to be informed what progress the Council have made in the bill, entitled "an act to exempt protestants etc.," that they have rejected the said bill."
[See Ap. 20, 1777, and Ap. 20, 1789.]
PROPOSED ACT TO ENABLE ANY PROTESTANT CONGREGATION TO HOLD PROPERTY. DEFEATED. JOURNAL OF NEW YORK ASSEMBLY.
1770, Jan. 12. Col. Schuyler, from the Committee of the whole house to whom was referred the Bill entitled, "An Act to enable every church or congregation of Reformed Protestants, in the county of Albany, without discrimination, to take and hold real estate to the value of £ .... . per annum, given to them for the support of the Gospel," reported, that they had gone through the Bill, altered the title and made several amendments thereto ; which they had directed him to report to the house, and he read the report in his place, and afterward delivered the Bill, with the amendments in, at the table. .
" Ordered, That the said reported Bill be read to-morrow morning:" (This was done Jan. 13.)
Jan. 13, 1770. Die Sabatii.
" Ordered, That the Bill with the amendments be engrossed."
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1770, Jan. 16. " The engrossed Bill entitled, "An Act to enable every church or congregation of Reformed Protestants in the counties therein mentioned, without discrimination, to take and hold estates to the value of one hundred pounds sterling, per annum, given to them for the support of the Gospel, and for other purposes therein mentioned," was read the third time. Resolved, That the Bill do pass.
JOURNAL OF NEW YORK COUNCIL.
1770, Jan. 16. An Act to enable every church or congregation of Reformed Protestants in the counties therein mentioned without discrimination to take and hold estates to the value of one hundred pounds sterling, per annum, given to them for the support of the Gospel and for other purposes therein mentioned.
Sent from the Assembly to the Council. Brought up and read, 1734 ; committed, 1736 ; rejected, 1738-9, (Jan. 23). Committee from the Assembly to inquire con- cerning its fate, (Jan. 25), 1742 ; informed of its rejection, 1742.
JOURNAL OF THE ASSEMBLY.
1770, Jan. 24. Col Schuyler made the following motion :
"' I move that a message may be sent to the Council, desiring them to acquaint this house with what progress they have made in the Bill entitled, "An Act to enable every church or congregation, etc.
" Ordered therefore, That Mr. De Noyellis and Mr. Jauncey wait upon the Council, and desire that they will acquaint this house with what progress they have made in the said Bill."
"A message from the Council, Jan. 25, 1770, by the Hon. Jos. Reade, Esq., acquainting this house in answer to the message of yesterday, desiring to be informed what progress the Council have made in the Bill entitled, "An Act to enable every Church or congregation, etc."-that they have rejected the said Bill.
1770, Jan. 25. Assembly sends a Committee to the Council to ask what progress the Council had made on Bill of Jan. 16, 1770. Informed, p. 1742.
1770, Jan. 26. C. Colden, Governor.
The General Assembly sent a Bill to the Council, desiring their concurrence, entitled, "An Act to exempt the inhabitants of the counties of Westchester, New York, Queens and Richmond, from any taxations for the support of the ministers of the churches to which they do not belong." Council Journal, p. 1746. Read first time and second reading ordered, 1746. Jan. 27. The Assembly inquired, by Com- mittee, what progress was made in the Bill of Jan. 26. Informed. (No further action found.)
JOURNAL OF THE NEW YORK ASSEMBLY.
1770, Jan. 16.
Samuel Isaacs, a Jew, petitioned for naturalization.
Mr. Thomas moved for leave to bring in a bill, to enable the people commonly called Quakers, in this colony, to hold and enjoy the privileges which are therein mentioned.
1770, Jan. 18.
The Quaker bill was read first time and ordered to a second reading.
(These efforts, repeatedly made to repeal sectarian legislation, before the Revo- lution ought to be studied up de novo, by a careful examination of each attempt, in the Journals of the Assembly and the Council, and the correspondence and pam- phlets of the times. The unsuccessful efforts to secure Church Charters, by all denominations except the Reformed Dutch and the Episcopal Churches, ought also to be included. Investigation would bring not a little literature to light on the subject. E. T. C.)
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CHURCH OF NEW YORK .- CHORISTER, ETC.
New York, Jan. 22nd, 1770.
Consistory held after calling on God's name.
It was represented that no interest had been paid on the bond of Isaac Uitden- boget, in four years. Thereupon the Consistory resolved that he should pay the same by next May, or else give a deed for the house and lot. If not, then the bonds should be given into the hands of a lawyer.
Resolved that the two bonds of Peter Vermillie and Josua Bishop, amounting to £389:12:6, should be given to Isaac Valentine on condition that he give a mort- gage for the same land bought of Peter Vermilla before named.
Jno. Bogart, Jr., Pieter Keteltas, Evert Byvanck, John Duryee and Jno. Gilbert were chosen a committee to assist Jno. de Peyster in the arrears, on the grounds of Mr. Harpending.
Anthony Rutgers having bought three seats in the New Church, and never having paid for them, although from time to time he promised to do so, the Consistory resolved to send the Elders Byvanck and Bogart to him with a request to complete the purchase. Otherwise the Consistory will be obliged to sell them again.
Resolved that Peter Louw be accepted for one year as foresinger in the North Church, and receive therefore £10. salary, to commence from June 1st; and it is not the purpose of the Consistory to increase the salary when the full service is rendered in the church. He is also allowed to catechise the children. This shall be made known to the congregation, yet he shall not receive any salary therefor from the church, but be satisfied with the month's pay of the children.
Henry Tiebout, has been appointed in June, door keeper, grave digger, etc., of the North Church. He is, according to the Articles of Agreement, to receive £10. yearly, even as is given to the door keepers of the Old Church and the New Church. The Consistory also grants him liberty to call on the congregation for their support.
Signed, etc., Arch. Laidlie, p. t. President.
ANGELICAN CHURCHES AT JAMAICA, NEWTOWN AND FLUSHING, L. I.
Rev. Mr. Bloomer to the Secretary. Inefficiency of the Ministry Act.
Jamaica, February 15th, 1770.
Reverend Sir :-
I preach at the three Churches of Jamaica, Newtown and Flushing alternately & generally to crowded assemblies who behave during divine Service with the utmost decency & decorum, the Churches are neat, well finished buildings, But those of Newtown & Flushing rather small for the Congregations, the former of which the people propose to enlarge in the spring of the year, but although I reap the satisfaction of enjoying the love & esteem of my hearers, yet I am sorry to acquaint the Society that my happiness is much obstructed on account of a trouble- some Lawsuit I am under the obligation of commencing against the parish for a Salary of sixty pounds a year allowed by an Act of the Province to the Minister who is legally inducted by the Governor the law for raising this sum obliges the people of the parish consisting of all denominations annually to elect ten Vestry- men and two Church Wardens who are to call within one year after a vacancy, a sufficient Protestant Minister of the Gospel who they are to present to the Gov- ernor or Commander in Chief of the Province for Induction* & as Dissenters com- pose a great majority of the Parish, they are careful to admit none into those Offices, but such as are opposed to calling & presenting a Minister of the Church of England and in order to evade paying the Salary (which being raised by tax
*This is a mistake. See Ministry Act, Sept. 22, 1693. The framers of the Law refused to put in the Act "to be inducted by the Governor." See page 1079, Vol. 2, of these Records.
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they complain of as a burthen) & at the same time comply with the law, they some years ago called & presented to the Governor a Minister of the Presbyterian per- suasion but he was refused induction and as the Act only specifies that he who is called, shall be a sufficient Protestant Minister of the Gospel, without confining them to any particular denomination, they imagine that the Law has been com- plied with on their parts & absolutely refuse paying me any money raised by virtue of that Act, notwithstanding my being inducted, by Authority from his Excellency the Governor, as I am destitute of a Call from them, who being dis- senters & chiefly Presbyterians are averse to the supporting of the Church of Eng- land. This dispute has been once determined by a due course of Law in favor of Rev. Mr. Poyer, one of my predecessors, since which time they have constantly raised and paid it without trouble, but now appear resolved to stand another trial.
-Doc. Hist. N. Y. Vol. iii. p. 201.
LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR COLDEN TO THE EARL OF HILLSBOROUGH. Law passed by the Assembly against compulsory church rates, re- jected by the Council.
New York, February 21, 1770.
My Lord.
The persons who appear on these occasions are of inferior rank, but it is not doubted they are directed by some persons of distinction in this place. It is like- wise thought, they are encouraged by some persons of note in England. They consist chiefly of Dissenters, who are very numerous, especially in the country, and have a great influence over the country Members of Assembly. The most Active among them are independants from New England, or educated there, and of Republican principles. The friends of the administration, are of the Church of England, the Lutherans, and the old Dutch congregation, with several presby- terians. From this the reason will appear of some Bills having passed the House of Assembly in favour of the Dissenters, and in prejudice to the few ministers of the Church of England, who have stipends by a Law of this Province. There was less opposition to them in that house, from the confidence they had, that they would not be passed by the Council-they were accordingly rejected there. I must leave it to your Lordships judgment, whether these things deserve His Majesty's attention, and I transmit to the Plantation Board a printed copy of the journal of the Assembly to enable you to form your judgment thercon.
My Lord, Your most obedient and faithful servant, Cadwallader Colden.
-Col. Docs. N. Y. Vol. viii, pp. 206, 208, 209.
CHURCH OF NEW YORK .- FULTON ST. CHURCH.
1770, March 15. Consistory held after calling on God's name.
The Church-Masters gave in two accounts of John Montanye, glazier, and Peter Marselisse, carpenter, for the enclosure of the New Church, which they are unable to pay for lack of income. Resolved, That the Treasurer, E. Bancker, ex- pend ninety five pounds for this purpose-this money to be returned to him from future income.
On a request in behalf of Mr. Van der Swan, it was agreed that for one year, the sum of sixteen pounds should be given him for house rent, out of the Deacons' treasury, in quarterly payments.
The Elders, Byvanck, Keteltas and Bancker, were appointed with the Church Masters, to regulate the pews of the Old Church and of the New Church; especially in regard to the pews of those who have removed or gone to other churches. They are also to revise the old lists of Jan Montanye, under the inspection of the Church-Masters.
J. Ritzema, p. t. Pres. Lib. B. 374.
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ACTS OF THE CLASSIS OF AMSTERDAM. Letter from Prof. Rodgers to the Synod.
1770, April 1st. Art. 3. Rev. Longueville delivered over a letter from New York, addressed by the Highly Learned Mr. Rodgers,* Theol. Prof. at New York, to the Christian Synod of North Holland. He requested that he might be in- formed as to the resolution of the Christian Synod thereon. The Rev. Tetterode, who will be a delegate to said Synod, has agreed to attend to this. xiv. 219.
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