Mohawk Valley genealogy and history : [a compilation of clippings, 1947], Part 26

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Hunters and trappers brought them glowing accounts of the ‘beau- ty of the Schoharie country and the fertility of the soil. Johan Conrad, Weiser and Captain Kneiskern were among the number who beat their way from Schenectady through the woods to Schoharie. When Hunter heard that twelve families had gone to that region, he sent a message, ordering them to return, but the or- der was not obeyed.

In March, 1713, others followed. Conrad Weiser gives a graphic ac- count of their sufferings. Friendly Indians saved them from destruction. Several villages soon dotted the Schoharie valley, the southernmost being called Weiserdorf, located on the present site of Middleburg. Two miles north was Hartmansdorf. Lack of cattle and agricultural implements was a great hindrance to these set- tlers. Salt had ' to be obtained at Schenectady a long distance away. The first crop of grain however was a pleasant surprise. Ten years later when the emigration to Pennsylvania occurred, they drove herds of cattle and horses before them, and could provide other places with grain.

The relation between these Pala- tines and the Mohawk Indians was very friendly, so much so that Gov- ernor Hunter became suspicious. Conrad Weiser, spoken of above, was permitted by his father to live while a boy with the Mohawks. He learned their language and knew their cus- toms well. This rendered him a per- son of invaluable help to his own peo- ple, for he acted as an interpreter and intermediary. Later, in 1745, he was deputed to make a friendly tour among the Six Nations and the re- sults were most satisfactory. Thru him very dangerous conditions were overcome. At one itme he traveled to the Ohio valley and visited the In- dians of that region. Justice Gerlach is said to have been the only justice" of peace in the Schoharie valley. It is said that if the justice wished to bring a culprit before him, he gave hls jack knife to the constable who carried it to the accused and required . IL. comminted time to appear

The Petries In America

been compiled by Mrs. Frederick Staehla, Munnsville, N. Y. with the assistance of Dr. and Mrs. R. C. Petrle, Johnstown, N. Y., Mrs. Edwin Freer, Port Ewen, N. Y. and many others whose names will appear later. Our re- cords are far from being com- plete. If any reader of this pa- per is connected with the Petries In any way, we request that he, or she, write to Mrs. Staehla. Any additional Information will be welcomed. If errors are de- tected, as the serles proceeds, correction will also he welcomed.

* (Continued from last week)

There seems to have bee.1 an error in the statement (as quoted from a descendant) that the Herkimers first went to Pennsylvania. (Ent. and News March 20.)

In the """Book of Names", page 68, is listed George Hirchemer as being on Gov. Hunter's Ration List. These lists extend from June 1710 to Sep- tember 1714 and were compiled by Boyd Ehle, C. E., from the records in London. He presented them to the descendants of the Palatines thru publication in the Enterprise and News in Dec. 1931 and Jan. 1932. In Simmendinger's Register of Names is given a list by him of Palatine immigrants, during his sev- en years' sojourn here, 1710-1717. Upon his return to Germany he pub- lished this list for the benefit of those who solicited him for news of their friends and relatives who had had the great adventure. Here we find the name of Georg Hirchmer and his wife Magdalena with one child at New Heidelberg camp. So we must conclude that Georg Erg- heimer (Herkimer) came directly to New York. Probably the date 1712 given hy some writers is the correct; one. At any rate, he came between 1710 and 1714.

Simmendinger gives some idea of life in the camps, first mentioning the voyage from England "which took 26 weeks with no small loss of pasengers," they "landed in the Province of New York in Canada in' North America, which borders upon Virginia."

"After the landing and fortunate voyage we camped for a time near the city of New Yorlt, until away from there, nd about fifteen miles south of Mr. Livingston's tract, we began to erect cabins, which every- one- fashioned according to his own invention and architecture.

"During this time because it was planned to sieze Canada or New France-equipment, bread and other necessities of life were provided us, but as this campaign did not suc- ceed after our return march certain work which consisted in burning of tar was demanded of us, which (work) was carried on with much lahor for more than two years, yet with no special and evident advan- tage and profit to the governor.

"Thereupon each one received his freedom to the extent that he might, seek his own piece of bread, in his own way within the Province until the Queen should again need our ser- vices and we, prepared for the first call. could be assembled together."

[No index. Custodian , Nessun DE · la Mater, town clerk, Athens, N. Y. CAIRO 1

1847. Register, 5. vols. Arr. num. Indexed alph. by children. Includes marriages 1847-1907 and deaths, 1847. Custodian William T. Staker, town clerk, Cairo, N. Y. CATSKILL

1882. Register, 13 vols. Arr. chron. Indexed alph. by children. Includes marriages and deaths. Custodian,

Robert H. Battiste, town clerk, Catskill, N. Y. COXSACKIE

1884. Register, 6 vols. Arr. chron. Indexed alph. by children. Includes deaths. Custodian, Mary A. Donovan, "town' dlerk, " Coxsackie ..

DURHAM

1882. Register, 3 vols. Arr. alph. No index. Includes marriages 1882- 1904 and deaths 1882. Custodian,

Bruce Disbrow, town clerk, East Durham, N. Y.

GREENVILLE .

1882. Register, 6 vols. Arr. chron. Indexed alph. by children. Includes marriages 1882-1906 and deaths, 1882. Custodian Frank R. Wickes, "own clerk, Greenville, N. Y. HALCOTT

1889. Record, 3 vols. Arr. chron. Indexed alph. by children. Includes marriages 1889-1907 and deaths, 1889. Custodian Marshall Bouton, town clerk Halcott Centre, N. Y. HUNTER

1882. Record, 6 vols. 1882-1914, arr. num .; 1915, arr. alph. No index. Includes marriages 1882-1907 and deaths 1882. Custodian R.R W. Loh- man, town clerk, Tannersville, N. Y. JEWETT

1882. Record, 7 vols. Arr. num. Indexed alph. by children. Includes marriages and deaths. Custodian, Edward Morse, town . clerk, Jewett, N. Y.

LEXINGTON

1847. Record, 5 vols. Arr. num. Indexed alph. by children. Includes marriages 1847-1913 and deaths 1847. Custodian Ivan A. Vallon, town | clerk, Lexington, N. Y. (To be continued)

JOHNSON GENEALOGY

"To be published very soon, a gen- ealogy of the Captain John Johnson Family of Roxbury, Mass., .with abut 9000 names. Orders are solicit- ed now. Captain Paul Johnson Foun- dation, 3000 Maiden Lane, Altade- 5-17-4t

na, Calif."

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being called Weiserdorf, located on the present site of Middleburg. Two miles north was Hartmansdorf. Lack of cattle and agricultural implements was a great hindrance to these set- tlers. Salt had ' to be obtained at Schenectady a long distance away. The first crop of grain however was a pleasant surprise. Ten years later when the emigration to Pennsylvania occurred, they drove herds of cattle and horses before them, and could provide other places with grain.

The relation between these Pala- tines and the Mohawk Indians was very friendly, so much so that Gov- ernor Hunter became suspicious. Conrad Weiser, spoken of above, was permitted by his father to live while a boy with the Mohawks. He learned their language and knew their cus- toms well. This rendered him a per- son-of invaluable help to his own peo- ple, for he acted as an interpreter and intermediary. Later, in 1745, he was deputed to make a friendly tour among the Six Nations and the re- sults were most satisfactory. Thru him very dangerous conditions were overcome. At one itme he traveled to the Ohio valley and visited the In- dians of that region. Justice Gerlach is said to have been the only justice' of peace in the Schoharie valley. It is said that if the justice wished to bring a culprit before him, he gave his jack knife to the constable who carried it to the accused and required him at the appointed time to appear with it before the justice. What it meant he well understood. If two were to be summoned at the same time, to the second he gave the to- bacco box of the justice and as that usually contained a liberal supply of the delectable narcotic the conse- quence of a fallure to return it . in due time would be dangerous in the extreme.

remain where they were. The women of the settlements were equal to the occasion, and Sheriff Adams was

eye and the fracture of two ribs for trying to enforce the demands of the. governor. In 1717 +hop from each village were summoned to Albany to aneyer for these orte In a mag- sion Hunter said he would hang Weiser senior, and **~~ he asked the man three questions. The first "aq "Why had they rome to Scho- Howin without his consent?" The sec- ond was "Why did thev not make a compromise with the gentlemen pt Albany ?" The third was "Why the, hard go much to do with the Indians ?" In brief their renny was "That they had to shift for themselves as the Governar told than the me after the manufacture of tar was discon- tinued. Moreover, they had naught to do with the gentlemen in Albany. and as the Thathe had offered land

settle there and purchase land from

New York. Probably the date 1712 given by some writers is the correct one. At any rate, he came between 1710 and 1714.

"After the landing and fortunate voyage we camped for a time near the city of New Yorlt, until away from there, nd about fifteen miles south of Mr. Livingston's tract, we began to erect cabins, which every- one" fashioned according to his own invention and architecture.

"During this time-because it was planned to sieze Canada or ' New France-equipment, bread and other necessities of life were provided us, but as this campaign did not suc- ceed after our return march certain' work which consisted in burning of tar was demanded of us, which (work) was carried on with much' labor for more than two years, yet with no special and evident advan- tage and profit to the governor.

"Thereupon each one received his freedom to the extent that he might seek his own piece of bread, in his own way within the Province until the Queen should again need our ser- vices and we, prepared for the first call, could be assembled together."

Simmendinger went to Long I's- land, near Brooklyn where he work- ed until he could in 1717, secure pas- sage back to Europe for himself and his wife.

The Herkimers must have been among the fifty families which made the laborlous journey to Schoharie, for in 1725, they were among the Burnetsfield patentees.

Herkimer- third generation.

In 1714 Governo- Hunter made a grant of the identical land on which The children of Johan Jost Herki- mer (died Aug., 1775, aged 80) and his wife' Catharine, said to have been the Palatines had settled, to seven gentlemen in Albany. When the Pal- atines objected vigorously to the a Petrie, are not given in proper or- purchase of land from these men, a der, as will be seen by the few dates available, and some additional sheriff was despatched from Albany to insist upon it, if they cared to information since the list was pub- lished March 13,

30X George Herkimer, third son of Johan Jost and Catharine Herki- roughly handled. He was given a ride [ mer, born 3744 died 1786. He served as captain and colonel of Trvon Co.

on a rail and driven through several villages. He sustained the loss of one' Mliitia and as a member of the com,- mitee of safety in 1775. Ile married Vida Schuyler. +

(To he continuer!)

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the Indians. It was necessary for them to be on friendly terms with the Indians for their' own good." It was not until five years after Hun+ ter's recall that. n. Patatine secured In the moon for their use, they be- I title to land gave by purchase from lowend that they tromp entitled to the Seven Partn.

(To be continued)

AFTER

MOEWAT

GENEALOGY AND HISTORY

THURSDAY, JUNE 5, 1947

St. Johnsville Enterprise and News, St. Johnsville. N. Y.

Questions and Answers

A department devoted to the pursuit of knowledge. No charge to regular subscribers. Any reader, whether subscriher or not, is invited to submit answers. Give datcs, places and sources.

FULLER

Excerpts' from answers to Fulle: query, this paper April 10, 1947: Benjamin Fuller appearing in Hillsdale, Columbia county in New York state census of 1790 was born in 1750, died 1808. He married Mary Sisson at Spencertown, Columbia Co., in February of 1778 and their child- ren were Poliy born 1780, James born 1782, John born 1784, Joanna born 1786, Rebecca born 1788, Saily born 1791, Benjamin born 1795, Sy- bil (or Sebelia) born 1800, married a man named Elliott; Elizabeth born 1802, married a man named Wood and Peleg Sisson . born 1806.

Darius Fuller appcaring at Cam- bridge, Washington county, was born 1757 in Willington, Conn, died Aug. 8, 1845. His wife was born Aug. 16, 1775 and their children were Hiranı S. born May 26, 1803; Freeman A. born Nov. 27, 1804, Lavina H. born May 3, 1806, Sally F. born July 16, 1808, Ira N. born March 13, 1810, Daniel S. born April 13, 1811, Wil- liam I. born July 8, 1812, Sarah F. born May 5, 1814 and Harriet N. born July 7, 1818.

Benjamin Fuiler appearing in

Queensbury, Warren county was 1837. Served in the Revolution In born April, 1763, died August 10, Capt. Sherwood's company of New York militia, called the New Levy. Resided in Columbia county, N. Y. at time of enlistment in 1780.

L. B. Atwood,

Alturas, California

WEAVER 1

Can anyone give me information on Jacob N. Weaver? He was one of the patentees of the German Flats and belonged to the Second Regi- ment of the Tryon County Militia and took part in the Battle of Oris- kany.

I should appreciate anything avail- able on his parents, his wife, and his children, with their dates and marriages if possible. Marie Lyle,

Lyle Heights, Paso Robles, Calif.

SMITH

From Smith family Bible: Jane

Crego, born April 24, 1794, died

March 24, 1849, married Dec. 29

1810.

Jacob Smith' born March 27, 1787, died Aug. 27, 1856. Children:

Sally born 1811, married General Hollis Rowland.

Timothy born 1815 married Fi- delia ?

Maria born 1817 married Hiram Lohdell.

Sylvester born 1819 died 1821. Ransom born 1822 went south, clothing store.

Lucy Jane born 1824 died young.

Lucy Jane born 1828 married F. D. - med to Illinois.

grows for six or seven generations on tomatoes it can easily attack that crop. As the blight was early last year, it had a chance to build up infection on the tomato.

WAGNER, BELL, WALRATH

To my request of May 22nd for the descendants of Johan Peter Wag- goner III, born 1750 and his wife, Anna Bell, I in giving, for their son Nicholas and daughter Magdalena, the following data from W. P. Web- ster's notes, marle available thru the courtesy of Mrs. Blanche Rich. Son Nicholaus (so spelled in the old nativity record of the Stone Arabia Luth. church) Wagner was born Feb. 11, 1792, died when? Mar- ried when ? Elizabeth Keller, daugh- ter of whom? They had 10 children as follows:

1. Nancy born March 3, 1818, died when ? married when ? Archibald Ehle. Wagner Bookiet page 16 gives the DAR line, No. 56371, from their daughter Catarina Ehle who married Cyrus Shults and had son Charles E. Shults who married Mary Davin and had daughter Anna Shults or Palatine, N. Y. Can anyone, flil in the gaps ?

2. Ann Eliza born and died when ? Married (as his second wife) Nathan Wagner (Peter 4, John 3, Peter 2, Peter 1). He had sons Peter P., Frank and John who marrled Jen- nie Baker and had son, McLean

Wagner. Were these children by Ann Eliza or by Nathan's first wife, believed to be a Gremps (her given name wanted.) Does anyone have in- formation about the above ?

3. Nicholas K. was born about 1831 in Fort Plain, N. Y. and died July 15, 1902, unm. For years, he owned and operated a drygoods store in Syracuse.

4. Anna Maria, born and died when ? married when ? Samuel Vos- burgh and had Anna and Liliie. Did one marry John Abbott? Was this Samuel descended from Cornelius Vosburgh, born 1741, of Kinderhoy N. Y. who married Annetje . Bogert ? 5. Julia 'Ann died at age zo. Did she marry ?

6. Kate died Feb. 1901, unmarried. 7. Gertrude born and died when? Married Lawrence M. Fox anl liv- ed in Syracuse, N. Y. or Detroit, Mich., which ? They had a daugh- ter Lillian, perhaps other children. SOS for gaps.

8, 9 and 10 Maria, Catharine and Peter died in infancy.

1. Anna Eilza, born and died

when ? married Archibald Gray, who diad at his son's home in Yorkville,

The Petries In America

been compiled by Mrs. Frederick Staenla, Munnsville, N. Y. with the assistance of Dr. and Mrs. R. C. Petrie, Johnstown, N. Y., Mrs. Edwin Frecr, Port Ewen, N. Y. and many others whose names will appear later. Our re- cords are far from being com- plete. If any reader of this pa- per Is connected with the Petrles In any way, we request that he, or she, . write to Mrs. Stashla. Any additional information will be welcomed. If errors are de- tected, as the serles proceeds, correction will also be welcomed.

(Continued from last week) During the summer of 1778 Col. Bellinger reported several times the intended destruction of German Flats. He had appealed to Gen. Stark in Albany and to Gov. Clinton for more troops but no help was sent. The governor claimed he had no control .over continental troops, nor continental stores. On Sept. 16, Coi. Bellinger made an appeal to Col. Klock to march men all night to his assistance. "If he had sent 200 men we mgiht have saved many build- ings, grain and cattle for the attack did not start until 6 a. m., Sept. 17." On Sept. 25, 1778 the colonel sent this report to Gov. Clinton: Build- ings burned-63 houses, 57 barns, 4 mills 'and all crops above the fort. Stolen-235 horses, 229 horned cat- tie, 269 sheep. A great number of hogs killed and destroyed.

It was through Col. Bellinger's ef- forts that the 44 families left around German Flats were persuaded to stay. He ordered rations to be issued the sufferers from the supplies at Fort Dayton and reported his action through proper channels to the gov- ernor who disclaimed in writing any responsibility for and the conse- quences of this act. However, noth- ing was ever done about It.

Both men and women mounted guard twice daily, walked post in Fort Herkimer and Fort Dayton and held the frontier through the perilous years of 1779 to 1783, including the

Frank, dated Oct., 1834 and others made by Nicolas Wollaber and Eliz- abeth Shoemaker, nephew and niece of Abraham Wollaber in Aug., 1843, state there was an actual battle fought at German Flats In the sum- mer of 1783. The above affidavits were made in connection with pen sion applications.

Col. Peter Bellinger, after his war duties were ended, returned with hi: family to his home on Fall Hill.

At the time of the attack on the mill at Little Falls In June, 1782 when Daniel Petrle was among those killed, Delia, wife of Col. Beliinger make sure of the safety of her fam. ily in the following manner. Wher .. she heard the call, "Flee for you lives! Brant is coming!" she collecteć provisions, her children and some went to the river, paddled them in. a far that nuri

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Resided in Columbia county, N. Y. at time of enlistment in 1780.

L. B. Atwood, Alturas, California

WEAVER 1

I should appreciate anything avail- able on his parents, his wife, and his children, with their dates and marriages if possible. Marie Lyle, -

Lyle Heights, Paso Robles, Calif.

SMITHI

From Smith famlly Bible: Jane Crego, born April 24, 1794, died

March 24, 1849, married Dec. 1810.

29,

Jacob Smith' born March 27, 1787, died Aug. 27, 1856. Children:

Sally born 1811, married General Hollis Rowland.

1815 married Fi- Timothy born

delia ? Maria born 1817 married Hiram Lobdell.

Sylvester born 1819 died 1821. Ransom born 1822

went south. clothing store.

Lucy Jane born 1824 died young. Lucy Jane born 1828 married F. D. Fiefield, Camden, moved to Illinois. Abraham (d) and Marvin twins, born 1831. Marvin married Sarah Foster first, second . Martha Ken- yon Farley.

Jacob Harvey born 1826 went south also before Civil war, fought for south.

Copied from will of John Crego in Norwich county seat: Jane had two brothers John dled Jan. 13, 1855; . Daniel.

John's children: Charles of Colum- bus, N. Y., Miranda of Columbus, N. Y., John of Leonardsville, N. Y., Stephen of Brookfield, N. Y., Rus- sell of Trumansburg, N. Y. Mary married Closson Burgess of Auburn, N. Y.

From Mariah Lobdell's diary: Danlel. -

1. Lewis, 4 children. Mrs. George Dennis, ",

Sherburne, N. Y.

TOMATO GROWERS TO BE WARNED IF BLIGHT HITS

If blight or rot.strikes the north- ern states, every effort will be made to warn New York tomato growers, says Prof. Charles Chupp, plant pathologist at Cornell.

"Blight in the south does not prove that New York will have it in July and August, but there is a possibility that the spores may blow northward. If this happens and June and July are wet months In the 'state, the fungus will arrive in time to damage the crop."

Since the only , place that the blight lives over winter is in live potato tubers, waste piles of pota- toes in many parts of the, state and stored seed potatoes are other threats to this year's tomato crop, according to the pathologist.

Usually the blight fungus found on potatoes attacks tomatoes only with great difficulty. But after it

Frank and John who married Jen-

nie Baker and had son, McLean Wagner. Were these children by Ann Eliza or by Nathan's first wife, believed to be a Gremps (her given name wanted.) Does anyone have in- formation about the above ?

3. Nicholas K. was born about 1831 in Fort Plain,. N. Y. and dled July 15, 1902, unm. For years, he owned and operated & drygoods store in Syracuse.

4. Anna Maria, 'born and died when ? marrled when ? Samuel Vos- iburgh and had Anna and Lillie. Did one marry John Abbott ? Was this Samuel descended from Cornelius Vosburgh, born 1741, of Kinderhow N. Y. who married Annetje . Bogert ? 5. Julia Ann died at age zo. Did she marry ?

6. Kate died Feb. 1901, unmarried. 7. Gertrude born and died when? Married Lawrence M. Fox anl liv- ed in Syracuse, N. Y. or Detrolt, Mich., which ? They had a daugh- ter Lillian, perhaps other children. SOS for gaps.

8, 9 and 10 Maria, Catharine and Peter died in infancy.

Magdalena, daughter of Peter and Anna (Bell) Waggoner, was born July 29, 1788, died when ? and mar- ried William Walrath on Oct. 21, 1811. They lived on the road between Fort Plain and Stone Arabia. They had five children, as follows: 1. Anna Eliza, born and died when ? married Archibald Gray, who died at his son's home In Yorkville, N. Y. about 1891. Said son was Han- nibal Gray who moved to Yorkville about 1875. Did he previously live in Whitesboro? Whom did he mar- ry ? He had daughters Alma, , unm., Emma, unm., and Lizzie who died prior to 1896. Did she marry ?

2. Jacob died prior to 1896, unm. 3. James Walrath, born when? died prior to 1896, when? Whom did he marry? He had sons Peter and Horace Walrath, both of whom mar- ried. Did they have children ?

4. Peter Walrath died prior to 1896, married number of children. Does anyone whom? He had a know who they were ?

5. Josiah Walrath ,born and died when ? married whom ? He had sons William, Jeremiah and Fernando, al- so a daughter Mary who married Harrison Saltsman. Their descend- ants wanted.

I shall appreciate corrections and additions to any of the above.

Marie Lyle,

Lyle Heights, Paso Robles, Calif.

JOIINSON GENEALOGY ,

"To be published very soon, a gen- ealogy of the Captain John Johnson Family of Roxbury, Mass., with abut 9000 names. Orders are solicit- ed now. Captain Paul Johnson Foun- dation, 3000 Maiden Lane, Altade-

na, Calif."

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Mohawk Valley genealogy and history : [a compilation of clippings, 1947], Part 26

Author: Publication date: 1942 Publisher: [1942-1949] Number of Pages: 222

Author:
Publication date: 1942
Publisher: [1942-1949]
Number of Pages: 222