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Signed by order
Zach's H. Kuypers Pre't
Jacobus Monfoort, Sec'y.
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PAPER No. 12.
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To the Honorable Classis of Amsterdam, &c., Right honorable Fathers and Brothers in Christ.
Right reverend Sirs.
On the 8th of June this year have we the honor had to inform your honors, that we have received your favor an the 5th of June via St. John, with those to the called Coetus, and also to our four committies in the matter of Queens County.
What new in the matter is done inform we you by this.
That we have repeatedly striven with Mr. Ketteltas in conver- sation, and all that was in our power to do, to constrain him, and his error to understand, and to a right comprehension to bring ; that sometimes appears to be of good fruit, though at last his obstinacy revealed, so that we his taunting could not escape, as if we thought that the truth was alone in the Low- lands Church, and that we, blindfold followers of the opinions in point, the only wise generation of Czaars, &c.
The effect on the community has been, that they separated from him and him released ; that it a great breach has made in the community (in whose midst he yet abides), and only a few more being found who adhere to him, as proof got from the next call to this place, about which we little have to say, as that speaks for itself.
This one nevertheless was by our desire, because the call was written by Domini Ulpearius Van Sinderen as consulting, and so the orderliness in the same is observed in the call.
Nevertheless it was not meant, that the whole Classis was given the power for a preacher about to look, but the power only and alone to the deputy ad res extras was referred, and that to them the full power was given about after a capable sub- ject to look for, the which when found, to the Classis to repre- sent, and there by the whole Classis yet further given over must be.
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Observe that the Congregation desire a speedy execution of this call, and we being conscious of the difficult situation of the Counsel of Amsterdam, for a preacher to send, that so it might happen that there no fit opportunity in Amsterdam may be, that he there, via. London may be sent.
For that the need of the congregation demand an all possible speedy forwarding. Whereto, we can not otherwise as from heart to wish, that God your undertaking bless, to the sending of a worthy person, in the fear of God, hazarding the answer to the congregations. And hereby, the way further opened may be, for the mind of other congregations up to arouse, for preachers out of the fatherland to be sent.
Inform we of our purpose in October to assemble in reference to the mentioned letter of the Honorable Classis, in expectation that we among, of it, yet further ontw should receive on the second pamphlet of Domini Leydt, and that of Domini Ritzema thereupon, as also what the missionary Hardenberg has edited. We must say that we in our expectations, have to hereto been disappointed, because Domini Hardenberg our language has yet to know with *intelligibleness, yet no single word with us com- municated, nor alone in his company was, although a few run after.
We understand that it is not to his satisfaction, and the rumor got that Domini Leydt who now by us appears to have finished
NOTE .- This letter in the handwriting of Do Rubel. * From Hoie's Kingston Record.
This circumstance will be better appreciated when it is stated that, upon the invitation of Domine Mancius in 1732, to become the colleague of Domine Vas, at Kingston, doubt was expressed in his call as to his ability to acquire the pronunciation of the Low Dutch language, so as to be understood in it. Therefore, " continues the call," in order to preserve unity, harmony in the Congregation, we make this stipulation in advance, that if you do not learn the Low Dutch pronunciation in the space of two years, and our people com- plain that they cannot understand you, then, in accordance with the Church constitution, the Reverend Consistory of the Church of Kingston shall assem- ble ecclesiastically in regard to this matter, assisted by two ministers of the Low Dutch Reformed Church of the Province, and if it is the sentiment of the majority that after the space of two years you cannot be understood by the Congregation in the Low Dutch language, we shall be released from our obligation in regard to the promised salary, and otherwise not.
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the per tegers the Classis shall justly entertain, now already being opposed ; new demonstration of their obstinacy in their purpose, as those opposing just before the on coming of Hardenberg, three students in divinity have made, and people inform us that the opposition, those, with the first opportunity in the Congrega- tians shall import.
In regard to that, the Congregation of Fishkill got to such a height that nearly the whole Congregation from the Consistory is afgescheurt. The majority of the Consistory members want a preacher there from Holland, that hardly so out of the com- munity with them can obtain ; one of these newly made Domin- ies will crowd in. What this doing will yet finally bring forth, the outcome shall teach, &c.
Now this is certain, the teacher's eyes are coming open and we perceive herein no disposition as which gives hope for declared independence and over all the Congregations with teachers be provided that the Constitution of the Lowlands Church firmly observe.
One of our name in the spring the trouble inspected for the matter of ¡Tappan to settle, by truly the ground to be laid by a written drawn agreement, but after the departure, became dis- persed on the Dominie's account, which was a right determina- tion, that where everybody throw over hope and the Domini but little more than the half of his salary received, and yet them- selves under the censure have laid.
Two ships from Amsterdam, viz. Berton and Smith, be yet expected, with the which we hope to receive some advice, other- wise must we request that the Honorable Classis send us over
1 Domini Samuel Verbryck appears from the records to have been the preacher located at Tappan at this time. He was an enthusiast on the sub- ject of securing a College for the education of the Dutch ministers, and seemed to have devoted the most of his time for that end.
Yet this very zeal for a literary institution, so necessary for the ministry, offended many of his people, so that they refused to pay salary to him. He also opposed all forms of prayer, and the celebration of the festival days, which conduct was then considered a great innovation.
His efforts for a College were successful, as a charter was secured March 20, 1770, for what is now Rutgers, at New Brunswick ..
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writing, the cost what it will, that we next spring may meet, for the things here so possible to make straight, to the best of our present circumstances, and it should be very good. So the Honorable Classis that of Albany thereto also love up to arouse. Dominie Westerloo being thereto well inclined, though his con- sistory appear therein no mind to have.
Herewith must we now this end, in the hope and expectation that Jehovah God our strength, whose cause we intend to main- tain to the suppression of all disorder, and maintenance of good order in the midst of us ; and that the Honorable Classis, us the needful help not withold, but aid us with all her power, and then see we nothing otherwise to expect of all troubles this day shall speedily in these an end take.
Signed by us, Right Honorable Sirs, Fathers and Brethren in Christ with the utmost humility and respect your Honors obe- dient Servants and Brothers, &c.
Long Island, 17th Nov. 1763.
JOAN RITZEMA, LAMBERT DE RONDE, U. VAN SINDEREN, V. D. M. JOH CASP RUBEL.
The translated paper No. 13, while it is indorsed, " The down- fall of the Coetus to New York," that, strictly speaking was not so.
The copy not having the year on it, would lead one to suppose that the end of the troubles had been reached. The year was 1753. We have placed it last. It should have been between Nos. 2 and 3.
The actual downfall did not occur until the third Tuesday of October, 1771, when the different factions "got together " --- Coetus, Conferentie, Classis and Neutral-and a plan arranged for union. This plan was first to be submitted to the Classis of Amsterdam for her approval. A second convention was called for June 16th, 1772, when the approval of Holland was received.
`George Rapelye was chosen by the elders of Success to attend this last meeting. The following is a copy of the minutes, "the Dutch of it."
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"De Kerkeraat Van Success here Ondertekent hebben Jores Rapelje, Onderling verkoren Voor onse to beantwoorde op de vergadering die gehoude sal worden te New York de 16 Juny, 1772.
Onderlingen 3
PETRUS ONDERDONCK, REM REMSEN, HENDRICK HENDIRSON.
A further meeting . was held in New York Sept. 19, 1772, as shown by the minutes.
[TRANSLATION. ]
Gorden Lowreme (Edge of the plains) Sept. 19, 1772. Accord- ing to a letter from the Revd. J. H. Goetchus have we the under- signed, being the Consistorys of Success and Oyster Bay, chosen Petrus Onderdonck, there to appear for us, at the general meeting that shall be held in New York the second Tuesday in October, for to help consider and determine all that in the future shall serve the general welfare of our Church.
Deacons-Jores Rapelye, Sr., Peter Monfoort, Thos. Dodge, Garret Nostrant, Rem Hegeman, Yan Schenck.
· Elders-Jores Rapelye, Jun., Henderick Hendrecksen, Rem Remsen, Abram Hoogelandt, Joseph Hegeman.
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PAPER No. 13.
[TRANSLATION. ]
(The Indorsement.)
The downfall of the Coetus in New York.
To the Honorable Consistory of New York.
The Honorable Coetus has on proper deliberation, been fash- ioned according to our Low Dutch Reformed Constitution, and taking at most to heart, the especial welfare and advancement as well as the enlargement of her kingdom situated in this remote province.
For such a service to arrive at and practically to forward, and finding themselves by reasons convinced and in conscience necessitated, for to seek in a Classis to be formed. So to regard- ing the frequent fruitless and painful endeavors of the present Coetus, also in regard for the urgent reasons and necessity for a Classis.
In the mean while, the Coetus no satisfactory reason can give out of Ecclesiastical Regulations for their present undertaking. It being just now neither Consistorial, nor Classical nor Synodical assembly, as such, there is contempt for without, and liable to confusion from within.
That the Coetus has no power for the highest prosperity of the Churches to arrive at, to cause satisfaction to the Congregations of this place, can neither universal final utterance do, nor no candidate nor preacher make, besides the difficulty and length of the present proceeding, must the matter yet and again to one of the Classis of Amsterdam go, before anybody can come to the end, and then not yet (according to opposition), evidence the necess- ity for a Classis, whereby we the desires of most all the congre- gations shall attain, and their exemption from useless and great cost, to the sending 'over for youngsters for promotion, besides the loss of much time, and great danger for the subject, even as also the calling for those not being qualified to place, and thus to come before seeking promotion others of different persuasion from us, whereof already is an example with the High Dutch-
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men that among us could not by us be received, and with reason for more to fear forwards.
Thus should we the Classis be able and in condition, the com- plete business quickly to dispose of the Congregations with can- didates and preachers provide, and thus we shall the essential happiness promote with a benefit to the Churches obtain.
With reasons thereof convincing, and desiring that object of the synod to help provide; and in accordance with what the Synod proposes for the same with her consent to ratify.
Accordingly were the Consistories and thereupon the Congre- gations on it kindly this agreed to and approved, and the same with their own hand to subscribed and bound themselves likewise thereunto to such a Classis about thereby to stand, and remain, and themselves to submit to the same orthodox utterance accord- ing to Ecclesiastical Rules, and that any of the on-coming minis- ters and consistorys this same to do.
That the salutary intention, with Synod authority, a better service might obtain and her approbation may carry away.
All this done in our Colonial Assembly to New York the 10th of September.
Signed in virtue of all the names.
Jo. RITSEMA. P. t. Presus.
We have quoted very largely from "Corwin's Manual," and as we have brought the " Old People " through their Ecclesias- tical warfare, we now turn to the Revolutionary War and quote further from the "Manual."
"But the colonial period was about to end. A dark war cloud was beginning to loom up ominously on the horizon. The 'Sons of Liberty' were busily at work. Two months before the battle of Bunker Hill, the Church appointed a day of humiliation and prayer in behalf of the evils which seemed to be threatening the land.
"During the mighty struggle the Reformed Dutch Church was in hearty sympathy with the cause of freedom. Her pulpits 'rang with stirring appeals, which roused the patriotic ardor and inspired the martial courage of the people.'"
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"The scene of the war was chiefly on the territory of the Dutch Church, and not a few of her church buildings were de- stroyed, and their ministers were often driven from their homes. The Church memorialized the Legislature of New York in 1780, speaking of the JUST AND NECESSARY WAR. At its close, Domini Rubel was deposed for certain immoralties and for his Toryism."
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RYNIER VAN NEST.
Was born Feb. 8, 1739 near North Branch, N. J. He was the son of Peter and Margaret (arienson) Van Nest. Licensed in 1773.
On Feb. 24, 1776, he married Catherine Hagar widow of the Revd. J. M. Goetschius of Schoharie.
The Queens County Churches, called him in 1773, but he declined. He preached in a number of places in the Wallkill Valley and while preaching in Schoharie, on March 7, 1785, a call was extended to him for the second time which he accepted. Jan. 8, 1797, he left, returned to Schoharie where he died, July 9, 1813.
Mr. Van Nest was somewhat fleshy, very neat in personal appearance and in penmanship, a good speaker in Dutch and popular in the churches, but could never succeed well in English, as about this time the language was in a state of transition from Dutch to English. . He and his wife, on account of their genial disposition were both favorites with the young. But the times in which he lived and labored, during and follow- ing the Revolution, were very unpropitious to ministerial success. He and his people were devoted Whigs, and he gave much to the Continental Congress.
(Translation)
· SUBSCRIPTION LIST.
We underwritten promise to the Elders and Deacons of the Reformed Dutch Church of Oysterbay and their successors, annually to pay, the sum by us taken, for a salary, for the Rev. Rynier Van Nest. By the United Consistories of Jemeca, New Town, Success and Oysterbay have called to him. Which pay shall faithfully each year separately, so long he our Preacher and Minister remains also. Also our proportion of fire wood.
Oysterbay Oct. 18, 1784.
Jan Van Noorstrandt
£sd 6 0
Aron Simonson IO0
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£ sd
John Cashaw, Jr.
10 0
Morris Keshow
8 o
Tunis Hoogland
10 0
William Hoogland
6 0
John Miller
4 0
Johanes Bennet
14 O
George Duryee
8 o
William Brambesh
3 0
Garret Wortman
16 0
Peter Nostran
4 0
Jacob Remson
2 0
· John Remsen
18 o
Charrity Hageman
2 0
Necolus Van Cott
6 0
Anthonie Van Noorstrant
12 0
Jacob Van Wicklen
80
Isaac Remsen
6 0
George Monfoort
5 0
Abraham Ramsen
6 0
Cornelius Ramsen
5 0
Jan Bennit
12 0
Peters Hegeman
I2
John Hartenbergh
4
Samuel Weeks
2 0
Nolley Waters
2 0
Nicholes Bennet
4 0
£10 15 0
As this did not appear to be the requisite amount, the paper went around again and 13 of the above added the further sum of 12 0
Total
£II 7 0
FIRST RECORDED MINUTES OF THE CONSISTORY.
WRITTEN BY DO. VAN NEST.
Acten of Handelingen Van de Kerkenraet te Oysterbay, onder de dienst Van Dome Ryneir Van Nest.
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1785. Dec. 11. Is de Kerkenraet van de Gemeynte te Oysterbay by een Vergadert ten huyse Van Anthony Van Noorstrandt en Na Aenræpinge van s'Heeren næm, hebben VerKoven tot opsienderen deser Gemeynte de Nævolgende Personen,
Tot Onderlg: Garret Van Noorstrandt en Jan Monfort.
In plæts van: Daniel Duryea en Wm. Braambosch.
Tot Deaken. Teunis Hoogelant. In plæts Van Aaron Symeson.
De. E. Vergaderinge is daar op met Danksegginge besloten. Als Geteuge Ryneir Van Nest, huys Syn pro.
De Boven gemelde persoonen syn in hære respective amptd bevestigh.
Door my, Rynr V Nest.
MEMBERS RECEIVED BY DOMINIE VAN NEST.
Aug. 24, 1787. Isaac Bogert; Minne Suydam; Jacobus Monfort.
Sept. 18, 1789 .- By Confession. Jan Luyster and Elizabeth Van Voorhees his wife; Jacob Van Wicklen; Gabriel Duryea and Fametje Hoogland his wife; Joris Bennet; Isaac Bogert, Jr.
June 24, 1791 .- On Confession. Joseph Meers; Abram Hoogeland; Lea Symenson wife of John Laten.
Aug. 30, 1793. Jacobus Voorhees and Geertruyd Suydam his wife; Doorthe Onderdonk widow of Adrian Hegeman; Maria Hegeman widow of Wilhelmus Hoogland; Geertruyed Hegeman; Annatye Hogeland wife of Isaac Bogert, Jr .; Susannah Debevois wife of Abram Duryea; Daniel Hogeland and Sarah Latten his wife; Daniel Bogert; Peter Luyster, Jr.
Nov. 4, 1796. Jacobus Luyster and Sarah Bennet his wife.
ZACHARIAH H. KEYPERS.
He was the son of Warmoldus Keypers.
B. Feb. 19, 1771, at Rhinebeck.
D. Oct. 4, 1850, in N. Y.
Licensed in 1793.
He was called as an assistant to Do. Van Nest at a salary of £120. Was ordained at Success, July 13, 1794, and preached i the four congregations until 1824.
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In his extended field on Long Island, living at Jamaica, he set out from home with his sulky on Friday or Saturday, return- ing on Monday or Tuesday.
He availed himself of the hospitality of his people, and made pastoral visits. He was fond of his pipe, and told long stories, which were eagerly listened to by the children.
For three years the two pastors worked together alternating among the churches and giving a Sabbath service once in two weeks, to each congregation.
In 1797, Mr. Van Nest accepted a call to Schoharie and left Mr. Kuypers in sole charge.
As neither pastor nor churches took measure to call an asso- ciate minister, Classis at the beginning of this century summoned Mr. Kuypers, and an elder, from each church, to explain, why no one was called.
The explanation given, was that as the parsonage at Jamaica belonged to the four churches, they were unable to separate and form new combinations, uutil that was sold. The parsonage was sold in May, 1801 for {831 and the money equally divided among the four churches.
The churches of Jamaica and Newtown in the following year called the Rev. Jacob Schoonmaker as the pastor of the two churches only, while Oyster Bay and Success were still depend- ent on Mr. Kuypers, alone, and consequently as he continued to give half of his time to the other two churches, these two had the pastor only one Sabbath in four.
Here the history of this church and that of Jamaica and Newtown are separated.
For ten years matters continued in this way. In 1810, Classis again demanded an explanation from Oyster Bay and Success. Teunis Hoogland and Thomas Dodge appeared before Classis and stated that the churches were losing ground, and threw all the blame on the preacher.
A committee was appointed, who investigated and found that both pastor and people were to be censured. Classis further voted monthly supplies to the two churches, and again this church had preaching once in two weeks.
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MEMBERS RECEIVED BY DOMINIE KUYPERS.
Apr. 24th, 1802. Johannes Luyster and Elizabeth Rapelyea his wife ; George Duryea and Willimina Brambosh his wife; Elbert Hoogeland; Jeromus Luyster and Maritie Bennet his wife ; Cor- nelius Suydam and Ida Rappelyea his wife ; William Bennet and Cornelia Duryea his wife ; Ransie Monfort, wife of Abram Mon- fort ; Ann Van Derbelt, wife of Jacobes Monfort; Maria Nostrant wife of Jacob Van Wicklin; Annathe Hardenberg, widow of Garret Van Wicklin ; Catharine Simonson, wife of Minne Suy- dam; Anthe Nostrant, widow of Cornelius Suydam,
Nov. 2d, 1805. Jane Suydam, widow of William Simonson ; Jane Van Cott, wife of Joseph Meers.
Dec. 26th, 1807. John Simonson.
Nov. 29th, 1808. John Bennet; Johannes Bennet ; Gertrude Onderdonck, wife of Peter Luyster; Sarah Luyster, widow of Peter Monfort ; Catharine Onderdonck, wife of James Hageman.
Nov. 17th, 1809. Helmus Bogart.
Oct. 23d, 1812. John Schenck ; Jane Rappelyea, wife of Joseph Hegeman ; Maria Van Wicklen, wife of John Simonson.
December 24th, 1812. The Consistories resolved that in calling a Minister a Parsonage is essentially necessary, we there- fore ask the aid and assistance of the Congregations to accom- plish an object which they consider indespensibly necessary.
We the subscribers promise to pay for the above mentioned purpose the sums annexed to each of our names, whenever the same shall be required.
Daniel Bogart ... $40
For the Removal of Mr. Bogart.
Joseph Onderdonk.
50
Andrew Onderdonk 40
Minne Onderdonk.
50
Isaac Bogart. 20
Elbert Hegeman.
15
Jeremiah Hageman
5
Peter Hegeman.
15
O. 2. 0
Andrus Hegeman
20
Joel Davis.
5
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Phebe Bogart.
IO
Sarah Rappelje.
15
John Hegeman.
5
Wm. Dodge.
IO
O. 2. 0
Maria Dodge.
5
o. 1. 0
Peter Onderdonk
50
Thomas Dodge
30
O. . 5. 0
Rem Rapalje.
3
Ebenezer H. Watrous
2
Daniel Brinkerhoff.
5
0. 2. 0
Elbert Hegeman, Junior
30
Sarah Thorne
20
0. 2. 0
Daniel Remson.
5
George Rapalye and Jacob.
Son
45
Anna Brinkerhoff
12
Abraham Rapelye.
40
Roelof Rapelye.
IO
Phebe Schenck.
30
Jacob Brinkerhoff.
15
Lott Onderdonk.
30
Peter Brinckerhoff.
5
$637
DAVID SCHUYLER BOGART.
He was born in New York, and licensed to preach in 1792.
Was a missionary along the Hudson. Presbyterian Church at South Hampton, L. I. Was called as collegiate pastor to Success and Oyster Bay. Was installed at Wolver Hollow on Sunday, Sept. 5th, 1813. In 1813 the congregation of Success divided and the northern portion organized a society at Manhasset, under Mr. Bogart. The old congregation of Success disbanded in 1830.
Mr. Bogart left in 1826, and died in 1839, age So.
He and his daughter Elizabeth frequently contributed articles for the literary Journals of the city. She died May 11th, 1879, at the age of 84.
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At Hempstead Harbor, on Monday evening, Dec. 2nd, 1816. Do. Cooper (Kuypers) married, Mons. Charles de Bost, late Adjutant General in the French Army under Bonapart, to the amiable Ann S. Bogart, daughter of the Rev. David S. Bogart.
MEMBERS RECEIVED BY DOMINIE BOGART.
June 28th, 1815. Helmus Bogart and Sarah Walters his wife, by Certificates.
Oct. 28th, 1815. Elbert Van Nostrand and Sarah Hageman his wife ; Maria Duryea, widow of Nicholas Bennet.
Nov. 24th, 1816. Isaac Bogart and Maria Monfort his wife. Ida Monfort.
May 15th, 1817. Cornelius Hoogland and Catharine Luyster his wife.
July 8th, 1818. Sarah Walters, wife of John Nostrand ; John Bennet and Ann Nostrand his wife; Tunis Hogland and Cath- arine Luyster his wife; Adrian Luyster and Phebe Luyster his wife.
July 12th, 1818. Andris Bogart and Susan Luyster his wife ; Peter B. Luyster and Phebe Luyster his wife.
Nov. 23rd, 1818. Mary Bogart, wife of Peter Hagaman.
Nov. 6th, 1819. By certificate Helen Miller ; on Confession, Ann Hagaman, wife of Rem B. Simonson ; Daniel Van Wicklen and Sarah Luyster his wife.
May 9th, 1824. . John Monfoort.
May 30th, 1824. George Remsen and Gertrude Luyster his wife.
Nov. 6th 1824. Jane Nostrand, wife of Charles Van Nostrand.
Hempstead Harbour, Jan. 17th, 1820.
Brethren :--
I feel disposed to purchase the place where I reside ; and if I fail in obtaining it as my own, I must look out for another situa- tion ; I am willing to give you for your half of it, five hundred pounds. I know it cost you more, but when you recollect that it is not very saleable, and moreover that houses and lands have greatly decreased in price, that it would suit neither a Farmer
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nor a Mechanick, that the sole prospect of sale should it be left unoccupied would be, that some wealthy person might buy it for a retreat for a family during the warm season ; that for the want of attention on the part of its owners, it is annually going into a state of ruin, and will most likely ultimately be productive of much loss to them, that probably one thousand dollars at least would have to be expended on the property to make it decent and comfortable, that a new Barn with other accommo- dations are requisite; that the house and fences around it and the Garden want repairing and painting ; that other considerable repairs are now necessary ; and that the obligation to defray the expense of necessary repairs, as well as to pay taxes, should they be imposed, rests under existing circumstances on you. And when, besides you take into view the risk attending the Buildings, together with the incompetent support which $350. per annum has hitherto afforded me, the sum I offer you will be, I presume, judged sufficient.
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