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16 Front street, Schenectady 5, N. Y.
BROOKS
Can any one help me trace the family of Huldah Brooks, born New Berlin, Chenango county, N. Y., 1816 and married to Charles Henry Foote ? Her father's name may have been Ira Brooks. Her mother was Altha Fitch Hankins Brooks. Our branch of the Brooks family moved to Elmi -! ra, N. Y. about 1830.
Mrs. Donald C. McCreery, 2133 East Seventh avenue, Denver, Colorado.
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ASHE
Information is desired about the Ashe family, of German origin, which lived in Half Moon (Waterford) Rensselaer county N Y., during the Revolution. The name may have been spelied Ausche at that time. Hannah Ash born 1768 married Dr. Thomas Martwell. Her sister married a Mr. Wencheii.
Would like to hear from any one named Ashe in the Mohawk valley. Mrs. Donald C. McCreery 2133 Seventh avenue, Denver, Colorado
HELLING
The place of death and burial of William Heiling, Jr., Revolutionary soidier. Family say Nov. 23, 1811. Was he the William Helling buried at Mannys Corners, near Amsterdam, N. Y.
Data on daughter Mary who mar- ried Jacob Slover and was living in Rushville, Ontario Co., N. Y. in 1858.
Data on daughter Sarah who mar- ried Walter B. Swart, son of Benja- min and Catilina (Wemple) Swart, where their marriage took place and proof. (Five dollars reward for proof of marriage that will satisfy DAR requirements.)
Sarah Helling and Walter Swart had the following children: 1. Eliza who married William Osborn about 1840 and lived in Scotia, N. Y. 2. Re- becca D. married Alexander Vedder, iived in Medina, N. Y. 3. Daniei who married Mary Ann Perkins of Gor- ham, Ontario county and had a daughter, Elizabeth who married Henry King, lived in Canandaigua, N. Y. about 1890. Afterwards lived in Howeil, Mich. Daniel Swart's son John married Lottie Hart, was liv- ing in Orleans, N. Y. in 1890 and had two children. 4. Anna Maria mar- ried George W. Cooley, lived in Schenectady, N. Y.
From old letter dated 1889 from- Hegeman, N. Y. a Mrs. Wm. McMar- tin writes a letter to Carrie Cooley (Mrs. John Allen) and signs it your cousin N. McMartin. Does anyone know if she was of the Swart or Heliing family? '
I hope I have made these querys understandable. I am a member of the Schenectady Genealogical society. Miss Harriet A. Allen,
937 Wright avenue,
Schenectady 8, N. Y.
CORNWELL
Wanted the parents of Morris Cornwell and his wife Ann Devine Cornwell and where they were mar- ried
In 1809 a.son William Devine was born at Lawyersville (now Cobleskiil, N. Y.) and in 1813 a daughter Anna Celestia was born at Maryland, N. | Y. Morris Cornwell also deeded iand in 1817 and 1830 at Maryland and Otsego county, N. Y.
Anna M. Mckean,
Box 97, Morgantown, W. Va.
THORP
Should like to know the names of the parents and family of John
Thorp of Bedford, Westchester Co., N. Y., whose wife was Ruth Stur- ¡ gis.
He and his wife transferred inher- ited property in Bedford, N. Y. Jan. 24, 1805 to a Squire Wood, (Liber o-p 291, White Plains, N. Y.) Aiso1 June 9, 1800 they acquired a mort- gage on some property in 'Bedford from Frederick Van Cortlands (Liber E-p 220.)
In Donaid Linus records of Thorps in Conn. he lists this John Thorp as one whose relationship is unknown. I was recently told by a genealogist that John Thorp was the son of Ab- ner Thorp of Montgomery Co., N. Y. Mrs. E. E Thorpe
47 Reid avenue, Port Washington, N. Y.
RYAN, OLMSTEAD, REXFORD, OATMAN
Would appreciate any further in- formatlon on Samuei Ryan, died year 1800. Married 1st and had one daugh- ter who married and went to Illi- nois and another daughter Orpha Knight who married Olmstead and they had three sons, one named Roy- al. Samuel married 2nd Rexford. Their children:
1. Clarissa who married.
2. Fredice who married Patricia Oatman.
3. Lewis born Aug. 24, 1800 at Hoosick Falls, N. Y.
Married 1st Marsha who died a few years thereafter. Married 2nd Barbara McKeachie. Lewis Ryan and Barbara Mc- Keachie.
Lewis Ryan and Barbara Mc- Keachie were my grandparents. The foregoing on Samuel Ryan is aimost all the data we have on him, so any- thing further will be of great inter- est.
Leonard B. Ryan, 2535 North East 39th Avenue, Portiand 13, Oregon.
THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 30, 1944
HOWARD
I would like the name of the par- ents of John Howard, from Central New York, his father was a Hessian soldier hired by the British to fight the Colonists, he deserted his army and took the name of Howard which was his wife's name. I would like the German name of this man. He had children, Nelson, Seth, Peter, Jacob, George and John. One daughter, Catherine Howard married a man by the name of Van Buren.
Neison Howard was born October 12, 1816 and he lived in Wyoming county, New York.
MICKEL
I would like to have any infor- mation at ali about Catherine Mickel born Sept. 18, 1818 in New York. There were nine children in the family and during a scourge of chol- era both of her parents and seven brothers and sisters died of cholera. Only Catherine and her brother, Philip lived. She was taken by the Masons and sent to school for girls.
I would like to know the name of this Masonic institution and any oth- er data.
She later was the wife of Nelson Howard, they were married Novem- ber 11, 1839.
Mrs. M. R. McCauley,
1584 Ferger, Fresno 4, Calif.
RAPPLEYE
I am engaged in genealogical re- search on my husband's maternal iine, through which he is a descend- ant of Joris Jansen de Rapalie, immi- grant from Holland to New Amster- dam 1623. While I am certain of de- scent I cannot prove it from· vitai statistics and the purpose of this query is to ask anyone who reads it, wbo may be a decendant or relative of these men, or may have informa- tion to offer, to please correspond
with me.
The grandfather of our Utah an- cestor was:
1. Jeremiah Rappieye born 1742, died 1826, supposedly in New Bruns- wick, N. J.
2. John Ransom Rappieye, his son (Jeremiah's) married Margaret Til- iier of N. J. and removed to Ovid, i Seneca Co., N. Y. in the early 1800s. He was a soldier in the war of . 1812 from N. Y. He died before June, 1864 in Schuyler Co., N. Y. His child- ren were:
1. Tunis born 1807 (Utah ances- tor), Ovid, Seneca Co., N. Y.
2. Nicholas 1809 married Lena La-| brewa.
3. Emily 1811 married Wilcox.
4. Jeremiah 1813.
5. Peter 1815.
6. Josiah.
7. Polly married Ketchum
8 Almira married Cramer.
9. Dinah married Coivin.
10. Jane A. married Armstrong. Since I began this work in 1934 I have taken all information and all families of the Rappleye name on ail iines of descent from first American ancestor and will some day in the near future send this material to the !! press in the form of a Rappleye Fam- ily book. I would therefore appre- ciate ietters from everyone bearing the name in any of its variations of speiling, with their own pedigree and the source of the information. They will then be placed in their proper position and line of descent in this book. I may also in this manner be able to trace the lineage of my hus- band's family and prove the connec- tion. Hoping to receive a shower of letters and welcoming requests for information from my files, I am,
Segrid G. Stevenson,
150 North Main stret,
Kimball Apts. 8, Sait Lake City 3, Utah.
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THURSDAY, DECEMBER 7, 1944
SANFORD
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I am seeking data on the parents of my great grandfather, Robert San- ford, born June 19, 1802 in La Fay- etteville Dutchess Co., N. Y. On Nov. 8, 1834 in Poughkeepsie, N. Y. he married Anne Green, born Oct. 22, 1812, Rhinebeck, N. Y., daughter of Charles and Peggy (Waters) Green. Three daughters, Louisa, Isabelle and Mariette were born to them before they left Dutchess Co. in 1838 to go to Elkhart, Indiana. The following children were born in Elkhart: Ez- bon, Henry, Emma, Melvin and Fran- ces by 1851. Robert died in 1889, also his wife Anne and are buried in Elk- hart.
The 1900 census (Dutchess Co.) shows an Isaac and an Ezbon San- ford, both with families. Since Rob- ert's first son was named Ezbon it is likely that was Robert's father's name.
Does anyone have any data on either of the Dutchess county San- fords, Isaac or Ezbon ? It is possible that the family were' Quakers.
Here is data that I have been able to get from various sources on Dutchess county Sanfords:
1. Isaac Sanford of W. E. town married Suzanna Palmer of Paw- ling, N. Y. on Jan. 21, 1795. Old N. W. Quarterly, Vol. III page 83.
2. Isaac Sanford of N. E. town, son of Wm. and Rebecca and Lydia Rus-
sell of Westport (Mass.) widow of | Washington county, N. Y. His name Stephen, daughter of Wm. and Lydia iel Shaw, Jr. settled in Queensbury, appears in 1790 census. In 1810 name `of, town was changed to Caldwell, Warren Co., N. Y. Sisson of Westport, married March 20, 1799. R. I. Vital Statistics, news- paper section.
3. Anne Sanford and Thomas Mil- Would appreciate any information anyone can give me on any line of ler, Dutchess Co., married Oct. 13, 1795. N. Y. record, Vol. 39, page 129. the people mentioned or any advice 4. Alva Sanford married Clarissa I can get to secure further informa- Covell born Oct. 29, 1794 in Dutch- | tion. ess county, N. Y. Hart. Times A4291. 1
5. Zalmon Sanford, member of as-
| sembly from Dutchess Co., N. Y.
(1801-1805.)
William J. Stock,
1061 Lexington avenue,
Schenectady 8, N. Y.
SHAW
Would like information of parents of Daniel Shaw and wife Mary (Gar- dner) Chaw.
Daniel Shaw born in Stonington, Conn. before · 1732. Died after 1789 near Troy, N. Y.
Married Mary Gardner Nov. 24 1752 in South Kingston, R. I. They! came to New York state between 1774 and 1778 from Stonington, Conn. and settled in or near Troy, N. Y. They had an inn or hotel there. Dan- iel Shaw served in Revolutionary war In Capt. Cornelius Doty's company, Colonel Van Woert's reglinent, Al- bany Co., N. Y. militia.
Their children were:
1. Daniel Shaw, Jr., born 1754
2. Comfort.
3. Nathaniel.
4. Lydia (Gibbs).
5 Ruth. (Bacon.)
6. Molly (Burdick.)
7. Jemima (Hammond.)
Daniel Shaw, Jr., my great great grandfather married Lucretia (name not known.)
Daniel Shaw, Jr., and his brother Nathaniel served in the Revolution- ary War, in Colonel Peter Yates reg- iment of Albany county militia. Dan-
A. M. Thatcher, Lake George, N. Y.
THURSDAY, DECEMBER 14, 1954
Questions and Answers
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HADDOCK, COVERT
I am again making inquiry of an- cestors. Recently you made an in- quiry for me in The Enterprise and News query column and excellent re- sults were obtained. A relative got in touch with me and sent me much valuable family data on one line, the Soop line.
I would like to obtain data cover- ing my Haddocks, Coverts (my great- grandfather) Richard Soop (Dick) married twice. First time Maria Cou- vedi (Coverts) in 1790. They had is- sue who would be half blood kin to me.
Richard Soop was the son of Fred- eric Zoup (Soop) and his wife Maria. Who was Frederic a son of and what was Maria's surname ?
" I would like also data covering the Clapper family. My grandfather's eledest sister, Mary Ann Soop, mar- ried a Clapper.
J. J. F. Soop,
842 Park avenue,
Baltimore 1, Md.
PROSSER
Would like names of Elias Prosser and wife Rachel (Barney ?) the name
Barney I am not sure, but believe it right.
Elias Prosser born Sept. 20, 1750. Rachel Prosser born April 29,
1760.
Their children:
John B. Prosser born April 21, 1780.
Joshua Prosser born May 30, 1782. Barney Prosser born Dec. 3, 1785. James Prosser born Aug. 17. 1788. Jane Prosser born Oct. 30, 1790. Phebe Prosser born April 12, 1793. Martha Prosser born Aug. 1, 1796. Thurza Prosser born Jan. 11, 1804. They were a family of Quakers, be- lieved to have settled in Dutchess county, N. Y.
Family tradition is that three brothers came from Wales and that the names, Benjamin, Icabod, Jona- than and Joshua are given names down through the generations.
Soon after the Revolutionary war, Elias Prosser and family settled in Queensbury, Washington county, N. Y. later called Caldiwell, Warren Co., N. Y.
Would appreciate any information or suggestions as to further means of search.
Lake George, N. Y.
THURSDAY, DECEMBER 21, 1944
CARTERET
Wanted all possible information re-
garding the Thomas Carteret who 265 Highland avenue, Miss Sydney S. Green,
lived at Claverack, N. Y. in the first half of the 18th century. (This is now Hudson, Columbia county.) He was dead by March, 1749 when his "surviving daughter" Catharine Car- teret married Luykes Witbek at the Zion Lutheran church om Loonen- burg (now Athens, Greene Co.)
This Thomas Carteret had other daughters, among whom were An- natje who married at Claverack July 6, 1744 Jan Ebbers, son of Mathys; Betty who married Dec. 21, 1747 Jan Kook, son of Richard of Lossing- burg.
Would like his parents and other children, if any, especially sons. Did DeKalb, Ill.
he have brothers and sisters.
Trenton 8, New Jersey.
BRADT, WENDELL
" Was the Jonathan Bradt who mar- ried Sara Wendell about 1778 in the Revolution ? Where was his home ? He was father of Anthony Bradt of Fulton county.
POTTER, SIMMONS
Who were the father and grand- father of Marl Potter who married Rouse Simmons near 1800 and where did they Ilve ?
Mrs. Samuel E. Bradt,
329 North First street,
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A. M. Thatcher,
HURSDAY, DECEMBER 28, 1944
First Settlers of The Valley
By Mrs. Mary S. Warren Delivered before the Herkimer County Historical Society, June 9, 1896.
It will not be possible to give more than a brief summary of the history of the early German settlers of the Valley of the Mohawk prior to their coming to America; yet their story would be shorn of much of its inter- est if it were omitted altogether. Nor can it be told without some ref- erence to the causes which led these people to seek an asylum so remote from their native land.
The map of Europe, as it was given in the seventeenth centry, gives a di- vision of Germany which was called the Lower Palatinate, or Rhine- pfalz. This must not be confounded with the Upper Palatinate which was located north of the one with which we are concerned. Within the limits of the Lower Palatinate were con- tained the cities of Mannheim, Hei- delberg, Spires and Worms. This dis- trict contained several thousand square miles of rich land-none fair- er or more fertile could be found in all Europe. It was situated chiefly in the valley of the Rhine, that region so justly famed for its beauty and luxuriance.
During the latter half of the sev- enteenth century the Lower Palatin- ate belonged wholly to Germany, al- though that country and France had for years contested the possession of this desirable strip of country, ow- ing to its being the dividing terri- tory between them.
As the two countries were almost constantly at war with each other, the half million inhabitants of the Palatinate seldom enjoyed an inter-ible miseries of war.
val of peace. The epoch from which
may be traced the cat sss whel drove the Palatines, as they Were called, from their homes in the Rhine val- ley to seek refuge in the remote Pro -. vince of New York, may be raid "to. have been the outbreak of the Re- formation. The continued wars from that time up to the last of the sev- enteenth century were in reality re- ligious wars, particularly those which were waged so furiously by Louis XIV of France. Time after time the Palatinate, owing to its un- protected situation, was overrun by imperial armies, and each time it was mercilessly devastated. Obeying the orders of Louvois, Louis XIV's cruel war minister. Turenne, the famous French general, carried out the instructions with such fidelity that both banks of the Rhine in the Palatinate district were absolutely denuded of everything. The unhappy Inhabitants were shown no mercy_ Men, women and children were driv- en forth, many having been stripped of their clothing, to wander helpless- ly about without food or shelter. It. was in December and the ground was; covered with snow, and many died from exposure. Their homes' were first pillaged and then burned by the- rapacious mob. The Elector, it is said, beheld from his window two cities and twenty-five towns in flames at one time. One writer, 'im describing the excesses of the Frencha army upon this occasion says: "Lust: and revenge walked hand in handi with fire and sword." But what for- lowed In a later invasion by the French was yet more terrible. The fanatical Louvois this time com- manded that a desert should be cre- ated between the kingdoms of France
and Germany. Having recovered
somewhat from previous calamities, the various districts of the Palatin-
ate were blooming and rich with. promise of abundant harvest, But- this did not stay the wild troops who carried on their ruthless destruction; until this fair land became one of desolation. It had been so repeatedly! and irreparably "wasted" that when; peace, so tardy in coming, was de -. clared in the year 1697, there was. nothing left in the fatherland: for- these war-afflicted people. They were homeless; they were destitute; their past was full of suffering; their present was full of wretchedness and, their future, if they remained where they were, was full of uncertainty. Confronted by every imaginable dis-' couragement, what wonder, then, that these unhappy people resolved to leave their native country to seek: refuge In some far-off land where they could be safe from the unuttera -.
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First Settlers of The Valley
By Mrs. Mary S. Warren
(Continued from last week) Above all, they wished to establish homes where they, and their child- ren after them, could enjoy perfect freedom of opinion. . Hearing of the desperate straits to which they were reduced, England, ever helpful of the oppressed, extended a friendly hand to the unfortunate Palatines and bade them welcome to her hospitable shores.
The proffered aid was gratefully accepted, and a company of these people, forty in number, went over to England and were transported to the province of New York through the assistance of the board of trade. This so encouraged' those left be- hind, that there was soon such an ex- traordinary migration' from the Low- er Palatinate to England that it be- came a serious embarrassment to the authorities to care for the thirteen thousand destitute people who were so suddenly thrust within their bor- ders. They were, however, provided for at public expense by this friendly nation, and were finally all sent to the various English colonies, with the exception of three thousand, who still remained to be disposed of. Steps were taken immediately to transfer them to the Province of New York where they were expcted to engage in the manufacture of naval stores, through which industry they hoped to reimburse the 'friendly govern- ment which had stood by them in their extremity.
After a wearisome voyage, during which time nearly one-half their number died, the "distressed Pala- tines" (as they were called in the documents relating to them) arrived in New York in a pitiable condition. Their only possessions when they raèched their "promised land" were the clothes which they wore; and what rendered them yet more help- less was the ignorance of the Eng- lish language.
They arrived in the year 1710. They were immediately placed on barren pine lands just where the present town of Germantown stands. Here they were to employ themselves in the production of pitch and tar for the use of the English navy. Their condition now became little better than that of serfs. They were unable to live up to the terms of their contract and finally the co-1 lanial government withdrew its sup- port. Their miseries multiplied until they were almost desperate. The re- suit was that they determined to free themselves from this serfdom. Ac- cordingly they decided to go to Scho- harie and take up lands from the In- dians.
It was late in the fall of 1712 and very cold when they started on their weary pilgrimage. Simms, in his "History of the Frontiersmen of New York," tells of the sufferings of the unfortunate Palatines as they made their toilsome journey on foot over rough Indian trails. Although the winter was close at hand the people were scantily clad, and set forth on their sad way without provisions. One writer makes particular mention of the cries and lamentations of the women and children as they started on their wearisome way. When they arrived at Schoharie they had no food. They were therefore reduced, Simms tells his readers, to the hard necessity of seeking relief from the Indians, and, be it recorded to the everlasting honor of the red men, the appeal was not made in vain.
The settlement they formed in Schoharie was a disappointment, for difficulties about the ' titles of their lands arose, and such were their dis- couragements they again determined, or at least many of them, to seek homes elsewhere. A number of them decided, if possible, to remove to the Mohawk Valley, although it, was then an unbroken wilderness.
Accordingly about one hundred of ! their number applied to Governor Burnet for a patent which would al- low them to occupy the "Mohawk lands," as the territory was then called which is now occupied by the towns of Herkimer and German Flatts. The original intention of the English had been to plant the Pala- tine colony on this exposed frontier "to serve as a barrier against the Indians," but they failed to accom- plish their heartless plan.
The Palatines having heard of the rich alluvial lands along the Mohawk river, wished to obtain them in order that they might peacefully pursue their calling, which was that of hus- bandmen. Governor Burnet, who was kindly disposed toward these unhap- py Germans, acceded to their request and purchased from the Indians be- tween nine and ten thousand acres of land. The natives, tempted by such trifles as beads, a few yards of bright calico, tobacco and rum, were very readily induced to exchange vast tracts of their valuable lands for these worthless baubles. The lands thus obtained were later transferred to the Palatines by the crown com- missioners.
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Town of Ohio
Munger Family
By S. C. Kimm
O ie has lived four score years. can rec il many changes that have oc- cur ed during his life time, but per- har none is more notiecable than
the Change in population in rural sec( )ns. In some instances large fam ies have almost or entirely dis- appeared. Such is the case of the large family that occupied an im- portant social position in the town of Salisbury just subsequent to the Civ- il War.
It is recorded that in 1865 there were five Munger families living in Salisbury. These were Gehiel P. Mun- ger who had a 69 acre farm; Henry Munger, also a farmer; James Mun- ger a cooper and farmed 25 acres. Sherman Munger had a farm of 100 acres and also did custom sawing. His home and mill were on Cold Creek on the Stratford road one mile east of Salisbury Center. He had two sons, Ira and Roscoe. I recall that Ira was the dapper young clerk in Daniel Northrup's general store about the year 1870. He married Alice Barnes and they lived for many years in the house so long ,oc- cupied by the late Dr. Wood. For many years Ira kept a general store on the point of land where the main street and Dolgeville road unite in Salisbury Center. Ira seems to have inherited a mercantile streak which has made so many famous Munger merchants. Roscoe Munger remained on the old homestead' of 100 acres which he managed with considerable skill although he was deaf and dumb. I think he must have gone away somewhere to a special school for he was a young man of culture and good appearance. As a small boy lt was interesting to see him drive his team about the farm. As I recall it sinet he could not speak 'to his horses He made a whistling sound that his team understood and obey- ed. The old fashioned "up and down saw" has long since disappeared and the mill pond is filled with mud ov- ergrown with grass and bushes. Cold Creek now runs freely and un- confined from the many springs of Plummerville to mingle its waters with those of East Canada Creek, except the Dolgeville storage reser- voir. When I was a boy this short stream furnished power for three mills: Mr. Spencer's cooper shop at Plummerville; the Munger mill on the Stratford road and the sawmill of Moses Hawks on the Emmons- burg road.
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present
their cars over the improved road generation driving
past the old Munger homestead to
Stratford can hardly imagine the deep mud holes of spring and fall through which the teamsters drew millions of feet of lumber from the Helterline : and Waters Mills or . the deep .. "pitch holes" in winter. What a curiosity it would be today to see a long. line of teams in winter long before daylight drawing loads of lumber to. Little Falls, the perspiring horses white with frost, driven with lines (reins) long enough to permit the .driver to walk behind the loads, to warm their feet in their frozen cowhide boots. By February the pitch holes between snow banks would be three feet or more deep. The load would push the team in and out of these depressions and on- ly by skill and strength could the load be drawn out and over the hummock soon to be plunged into another hole. In the late afternoon these teams would be coming back with loads of feed and hay for the lumber camps or with groceries for Perkins' or. Bliss Kibbee's stores. Ev- ery other day a team would make the 32 mile trip to and from Little Falls to Devereaux (Stratford) load- ed both ways. Start out at 3 o'clock a. m. and return after dark in the evening of the same day. For this 16 or 18 hours' trip, weather often below zero, the teamster was paid one dollar per day and found (board "and lodging.) "Them were the happy days" as compared to drawing lum- ber and supplies in a truck over im- proved and plowed roads. Only a few today can recall the lumber teams, the teamsters, the pitch holes and the cowhide boots. Soon only tradi- tion will record the one time flour- ishing saw mills, ''tanneries and'
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