Mohawk Valley genealogy and history : [a compilation of clippings, 1945-1946], Part 19

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Publication date: 1942
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It 'is advisable to show to the pas- tor what you have written. He is a well educated man and is certainly better acquainted with his own church than you are iikcly to become through your own reading about it in the registers. You may have more data about its past, but he may be able to interpret the data more cor- rectly. He is familiar with the shades of difference between his own and of the churches, and he will be able jo correct unintended efforts and omissions. The various sects differ so much in their forms of govern- ment, in the titles of their officers, and in certain of their religious be- liefs and practices that you will do well to consult the locai clergyman in order to be sure to use the cor- rect terminology. Remember, howev- er, that it is your history and not his, and draw your lines accordingly and in proportion to the prominence of the church in the history of the town or ,community.

In your chapters regarding religion you'wifi, of course, not want to of- fend the feelings of any "group. There is, a technique in writing which ciearly sets forth the special beliefs to which a sect may subscribe but does not hold them up to ridi- cule. If you are unable to write that tactfuiiy, it is best to remain silent onthe subject.

You may find that une strongest church or churches of the early days are now defunct through some

strange turn of the wheel of fortune. You will probably run across one or more defunct churches and may not be abie' to locate their records, try as you may. Inquire' among old res- idents whether they know of any children or grandchildren of former prominent members of this nonexis- tant church. Look up these individ- uais and learn all about their fore- bears' church and the possible whereabouts of the records. It may be that they are reposing in some local attic or in the archives of a church historical society or at church's headquarters.

Again, you may run across refer- ences to these defunct churches, as to be free to all members of the So-

Well as others which are still flour- Ishing, in one of the regional or state histories which have occasionaliy been published for one or another of

found in such a volume, helped to compiete a picture of the early days in the Parkville Presbyterian church. The Minister, who served from 1845 tto 1848, wrote:

The formation of this Society cer- the sects. The two foliowing execpts ; tainly started something. The next month a meeting of citizens was called to see about building a new school house. A: building committee was appointed, composed of Dr. Bar- ney, Frank Favilie, H. Spencer, R. J. Dunckel, Theo. Sanford, and Wheeler Knapp. You wiil note that no German name is on this list. The committee, it is said, heid fifteen different meetings.

There are but a few, Presbyterians here, and no preaching at aii. Mr. Park, the proprietor, is from New a minister 'permanently located. He England and is very anxious to have and his brother-in-law, Mr. Parsons, wili supply all my immediate wants of board, etc. I find this place where I am to board to be one of the pieasantest places in all the Piatte. Yes, will you believe it, it is in a Cinta of Mainel Mr

How the Ambitions of Alfred Dolge Created an Industrial Dolgeville on Lone Site of a Covered Bridge

Only a few years previously this pro-candidates. It was reported that same element had bitterly* fought the school principal had inserted a letter in one of the papers deroga- tory to Mr. Dolge's work as a mem- ber of the Board of Trustees. the Free School Act, which ailowed a poor man to send his children to the district school without paying tuition, called a "rate biii."

Added to that the anti-High School Free district schools, oniy a short crowd won out by a large majority. time previous to the coming of Al-| Mr. Dolge promptiy sent in his let- ter of resignation, couched in the most caustic and sarcastic language of which he was past master.

School Lacked Only a Principal In his letter of resignation Alfred Dolge reviewed his past efforts and . contributions, and how he had been themeans of advancing the Principal of the school financially. How there was great lack of disciplie in the school, and a lack of thorough teach- ing on the part of the teachers. How he had selected two boys"in the up- per grades and found they could not. do simple sums in arithmetic.

Mr. Dolge added: "We have a school house and no Principal to put in it." Continuing he said: "I intend- ed to test the legality of the school meeting, but when I saw old ladies past 70 years of age dragged to the polling piace by the Principal and his henchmen, when I heard the

A View of Spruce Creek Falls, Salisbury Center

could teach advanced subjects.

They formed a School Society, for the purpose of raising money by vol- subscription. Besides this, entertainments were to be given to raise funds. This private school was

untary the

ciety.

Mr. Dolge Bulit a Schoolhouse

Finally Mr. Dolge offered to give them the land on which to build a schoolhouse. Also to pay the entire cost, lacking $7,000, which the dis- trict was to pay. And he would also give $3,000 for the old school site.

Thus taxpayers paid only $4,000

+vote the American ticket," the en- tire performance was so contempti- ble of American American citizens." Lost, a Grand Piano and Teacher ! . "The Principal and certain mem- bers of the Board have been very; busy telling the voters that I in- tended to Germanize the school and the entire village. I planned to give the district a grand piano, and hire a music teacher at my own expense."

In conclusion Mr. Dolge said: "In tendering you my resignation here- with as a member of your Board, I regret that I could not render the people of this village the services which they expected. It has, howev- er, not been because of any fault of mine, and I offer my resignation re- luctantiy. I would be devoid of all self respect and all sense of honor, if I should remain a member of this Board any longer."

An Office Boy Who Went Places Alfred Dolge was completely lick- ed. The German immigrant lad who had overcome hardships and success- full yfought the industrial magnates of two continents. met his_Waterloo '

fred Dolge had been an issue in the State election. The tariff, hard mon- ey, and every other issue was laid aside as politicians converged on Al- bany, bent on defeating the Free Schooi Bili.

Judge Draper, the ablest Educa- tion Commissioner , this State ever had, said that this' contest for free school's was the greatest fight ever waged in the interest of free educa- tion.

Not until August 3d, 1896, were any constructive steps taken to give the children better educational fa- cilities. A. petition was .circulated,

signed by a long list of German par- ents,and perhaps half a dozen of the Yankee aristocracy. These people as- sembied on the above date and in- scribed a resolution to the school trustees that the school .house was too smail, rooms overcrowded, and that there was need of a teacher who ' Principal say, 'down with the Dutch

strange turn or the weer fortune. You will probably run across one or more defunct churches and may not be able to locate their records, try as you may. Inquire' among old res- idents whether they know of any children or grandchildren of former prominent members of this nonexis- tant church. Look up these individ- uals and learn all about their fore- bears'" church and the possible whereabouts of the records. It may be that they are reposing in some local attic or in the archives of a church historical society or at the churoh's headquarters.

Again, you may run across refer- ences to these defunct churches, as Well as others which are still flour- ishing, in one of the regional or state histories which have . occasionally been published for one or another of

The formation of this Society cer- the sects. The two following execpts ; tainly started something. The next found in such a volume, helped to complete a picture of the early days in the Parkville Presbyterian church. The Minister, who served from 1845 to 1848, wrote:

There are but a few. Presbyterians here, and no preaching at all. Mr. Park, the proprietor, is from New a minister 'permanently. located. He England and is very anxious to have and his brother-in-law, Mr. Parsons, will supply all my immediate wants of board, etc. I find this place where I am to board to be one of the pleasantest places In all the Platte. Yes, will you believe it, it is in a corner of the State of Maine! Mr. Parsons is from Maine. Mrs. Par- soms is the very life of the church. Another minister left an interest- ing glimpse of the simplicity of Parkville church life about 1850 when he wrote: "Our good elder came to the service, clad in his red blanket overcoat with black fringe, a bottle of wine in one pocket and two blue tumblers in the other, with the bread ations were, of course, for the com- wrapped in a paper." (These prepar- munion service.) These two passages were from letters written by Park- ville pastors to ministerial friends elsewhere. Naturally, one could' not find such letters in the local com- munity, but they somehow drifted into the possession of the writen of a presbyterial history.

''Be on the watch also for autobi- ographies of · prominent. clergymen. Preachers of the frontier days in the Central West were in the habit of years of retirement from active ser- writing their memoirs in their first vice. The more a minister had trav- eel about and the more experiences he had, the more likely he was to write an autobiography. Peter Cart- wright's life is a good example. One such autobiographer, who had serv- ed the Parkville Presbyterian church immediately after the Civil War, said that as the men at church sat down after singing a hymn, the thud of revolvers in hip pockets drowned out the closing of the hymn books -quite a commentary on postbellum pioneer conditions.

(To be continued)

THEY'RE A COMPLEMENT

To· good food, and whet jaded ap- petites. They're dry. That's one rea-1832, no index. Includes deaths. son why Utica Club Ale and Beer Kelly, registrar of vital statistics, are preferred by millions .- Adv.

A View of Spruce Creek Falls, Salisbury Center

could teach advanced subjects. They formed a School Society, for the purpose of raising money by vol- untary subscription. Besides this, entertainments were to be given to raise funds. This private school was to be free to all members of the So- ciety,

Mr. Dolge Built a Schoolhouse

month a meeting of citizens was called to see about building a new school house. A building committee was appointed, composed of Dr. Bar- ney, Frank Faville, H. Spencer, R. J. Dunckel, Theo. Sanford, and Wheeler Knapp. You will note that no German name is on this list. The committee, it is said, held fifteen different meetings.'

Finally Mr. Dolge offered to give them the land on which to build a schoolhouse. Also to pay the 'entire cost, lacking $7,000, which the dis- trict was to pay. And he would also give $3,000 for the old school site. Thus taxpayers paid only $4,000 for the new school house, and Mr. Dolge was by far the largest tax- payer. That is how the Dolgeville Union School building came. :

Came a Resignation That Hurt

Because of his many gifts, Mr. Dolge had become a member of the School Trustees, but he could get no actino toward teachers for advanced studies. His only hope lay in get- ting new trustees elected at the an- nual school meeting, drawing near. Just before the school election Mr. Dolge returned from a business trip to find the anti-high school voters arrayed in solid phalanx against the

-vote the American ticket," the eny tire performance was so contempti- ble of American American citizens." Lost, a Grand Piano and Teacher ! , "The Principal and certain mem- bers of the Boand have been very; busy telling ' the voters that I in- tended to Germanize the school and the entire village. I planned to give the district a grand piano, and hire a music teacher at my own expense."" In conclusion Mr. Dolge said: "In tendering you my resignation here- with as a member of your Board, I regret that I could not render the people of this village the services Which they expected. It has, howev- er, not been because of any fault of mine, and I offer my resignation re- luctantly. I would, be devoid of all self respect and all sense of honor, if I should remain a member of this Board ' any "longer."\

In passing permit me to digress: to say that one of the two boys se- lected by Mr. Dolge to serve in his office, and who could not solve sim- ple problems in arithmetic, later at- tended Fairfield Seminary and read- ily beat the writer in a prize com- petition in mathematics.

He became superintendent of the Dolgeville Railroad and were he allve he would be the father-in-law of Dolgeville's famous baseball pitch- | er.

(To be continued)

Genealogical Sources in the Mohawk Valley

AND NEARBY

BIRTH, DEATH AND

MARRIAGE RECORDS

(From WPA Guide to Publlc Vital Statistics Rerocrds in New York State, Vol. 1,1142

Fulton County

Oppenheim

1847-48. 1887-1920. Record 1 vol. Arr. chron. No index. Includes mar- riages an ddeaths. Custodian, Mrs. Ainna F. Kelly, registrar of vital sta- tistics, RD 1, Dolgeville, Il. Y.

1920. Register, 2 vols. Arr. chron. 1920-31, indexed alph. by children. 1920-31. Custodian, Mrs. Anna F.

RD 1, Dolgevilie, N. Y.

Perth

1927. Register, 1 vol. Arr. chron. Indexed alph. by children. Includes deaths. Custodian Harry A. Volean, town clerk, Amsterdam, N. Y. Stratford 1

1888, 1909, 1926, Register, 3 vols. Arr. chron. 1888-1909, no index; 1928 indexed alph. by children. Includes marriages and deaths. „Custodian, James McGowan, town clerk, Strat- ford, N. Y.

1910-25. Record, 1 voi. Arr. chron. Indexcd alph. by children .. Includes deaths. Custodian, James McGowan, town cler !: , Stratford, N. Y .. Broalalbin

1924. Register, 1 vol. Arr. chron. Indexed alph. by children. Includes deaths. Custo :jan, Elwood A. Lee, village 'clerk, Broadalbin. N. Y. Dolgeville 1891

1883. Register, 8 vols. Arr. chron. Indexed alph. by children. Includes marriages 1888-1907 aml deaths, 1888. C . : todian: 13883-1902, Mrs. Bessie Bogerd, town clerk (of Man- heim, Herkimer County), Dolge- vilic, N. Y .; 1933 Charles W. Sulli- van, vi'laje clerk. Dolgeville, N. Y.

MOHAWK VALLEY

GENEALOGY

AND HISTORY

St. Johnsville Enterprise and News, St. Johnsville. N. Y.

THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 21, 1946

Questions and Answers A department devoted to the pursuit of knowledge. No charge to regular subscribers. Any reader, whether subscriber or not, is invited to submit answers. Give dates, places and sources.

WHELAN, BILLINGTON

Issue of Enterprise and News of January 17, 1946 in Whelan-Billing- ton Family Tree are Monroe county land records.

'I note in the paragraph "Eli Whe- lan's wife was Desire Beebe and there are many Beebes in early Gen- esee County, N. Y. records.

Is there a John , Fuller Bisbee in

Genesee county land records in 1800? He lived there as a son Hiram Bisbee was born there 1800.

Hiram Bisbee was born there 1800. I have the Bisbee' data but nothing for his wife, Chloe Burrell Bisbee. 1850 Federal Census states she was born in Vermont 1865 In Conn. must have her birth, where born and more years ago.

parentage.

John Fuller Bisbee was in War of 1812; were in Orleans county in 1827; a daughter Lucina was mar- ried in Greece In 1843 to Chauncey L. Harris and family moved to Roch- ester according to the 1850 census. May I have names of cemetery as- sociations; Chloe and John F. Bis- bee were both buried in Rochester and there must be some record of that.

Eizoe C. Weissgerber,

347 Kimball Terrace, Chula Vista, Calif.

HOUCK

Who were the parents of Polly Houck born about 1800. She married Frank Vande Bogart. Children were born in Cayuga county and were Mary, Rebecca, Dolly, Sarah, Louise, John, Charles, Joseph, James and William.

VANDE BOGART

Who were the parents of John and Frank Vande Bogart. John and Frank born around 1800. John mar- ried Poliy Springer.

Mrs. Forbes Merkley, .

5285 Davison Road , Flint 7, Michigan WEBB

WEBB

James Webb died at East Hamp- ton, Conn. Oct. ... 12, 1817 age 84. Where was he. born? Who were his parents? Who did he marry? Hls known children were Bliss born Dec. 6, 1764. He married August 5, 1792 at Eastbury ' Parish, Glastonbury, Conn., Florinda Holmes of Eastford. Abigail died unmarried. Anna, who did she marry? Joshua marrled at East Hampton April 16, '1805, Ann Welch, daughter of William Welch. And James born March 21, 1777 probably at East Hampton. He married (1) Betsey, daughter of children viz: Ellza · born Nov. 17, John Faville of Manheim, Montgom- ery County, N. Y. They had three 1803 at Brookfield, N. Y. married Willlam Tenney. William Waterman; John born at Manhelm, N .. Y. 1808.

who may have any part of the fol- lowing data. Who has the famlly Bi- bles or names of children with

Ithamer

dates of birth of Capt. Spencer (1733-1825) and Israel Spen- cer, both Revolutionary soldiers who reared large families near what is now Spencertown, Columbia Co., N. Y. They are said to have located in what Is now the town of Maryland, Otsego County, N. Y., prior to 18800. We now have a partial list, but but would like a complete list with dates of birth of the above child- ren.

Would . also like data of the Shutts family who resided in Mont- I gomery Co., N. Y. one hundred or

H. C. La Rue,

Chariton, Iowa

BROWER, SMITH

Data wanted on a Brower-Smith family. Nazareth Brower, born Oct. 26, 1756 died Nov. 9, 1817, married at Poughkeepsie Jane (Ginney) Brower, Nov. 2, 1775 said to have been the daughter of Charles Brow- er and wife?

Who were the above Charles Brow- er and wife?

Their daughter Elizabeth Brower born Jan. 23, 1792 died Jan. 24, 1844, married John D. Smith (probably John Dewitt Simth) and had Sarah Jane Smith born about 1815-6 who

married about 1830-1 Abram A. Bo- gardus born ' 1794 at Fishkill, Dutch- ess county, son of Cornelius and Elizabeth Roe (Van Voorhis) Bogar- dus. Who was ohn D. Smith?

I will pay $10 for records proving lines.

Miss Carola W. Bogardus,

1460 No. Broad street, Hillside, N. J. .

PETRIE

PETRI

Wanted proof of parentage of Ja- cob Petrl, ensign and later prisoner in Rev. War. He afterward founded Petrie's Corners, now Columbia Cen- ter In southern Herkimer Co. His father is. said to have been Joseph (Han " Jost) Petri, Sergt. who was wonuded at battle of Oriskany and died August 30, 1777, Joseph left a N. Y. State seven years' half pay af- widow, Barbara who received from ter his death. I believe that Barbara wasa second wife and that the moth- er of Jacob was Marie Eva. I have much data on Petries gathered from various church records, but lack of proof for my own . problem. Applica- tion on the military record of Em- sign Jacob. Petri has been accepted by Nath. Society DAR. If I could help anyone seeking Petrie data, I would gladly do so and would be grateful to any person having the information I desire if they would write me regarding it.

farmer 114.

Gifford, Charles F., Cranberry

Creek, farmer 117.

Gifford , Isaac, Cranberry Creek, farmer 50. Gifford, Morris, Mayfield,, farmer" 15 Gifford, Norman, Cranberry Creek, farmer 500.

Gifford, William, Mayfield, carpen- ter. Golder, Derick G., Kingsborough, school teacher and farmer 65. Golder, William S., Mayfleld, ma- son and farmer 75. Goodemote, Frederick B., Broadal- bin , farmer 130. Goodemote, Godfrey, Broadalbin, farmer 6.

Goodemoot, James H., Mayfleld, blacksmith and farmer 33.

Goodemote, William, Mayfield, far- mer leases of Richard Van Allen 220. Granger, Thomas, Vails Mills, kid dresser and farmer 30.

Gray, Phllander N., Mayfield, far- mer 80.

Green, John, Mayfield, glove and; mitten manuf. and farmer 35. Gulick, Jacob, Mayfield, farmer' 2. Haines, Davld N., Mayfield, shoe- maker.

Haines, Jacob L., Mayfield,' har-

ness maker. Haley, Peter, Mayfield, tanner and currier. Haley, William, Mayfield, tanner and currier. Hall, Christopher, Fayfield, farmer 3. Hall, Elijah S., Cranberry Creek, farmer 84. Hall, Ephraim S., Mayfield, farmer 1.

Hall, Henry, Cranberry Creek, tar- mer 207.

Hall, James, Mayfield, farmer 51%. Hail, James S., Cranberry Creek, farmer 50.

Hallenbeck, Selah W., Mayfield, farmer 64. Hathaway, David . W., Mayfield, prop. of saw mill. Hathaway, Isaac, Mayfleld, retired farmer.

Hathaway, Seth C., Mayfield, far- mer 100.

Hays, John, Broadalbin, mason and farmer leases of Louisa Satterlee '70. Hegeman, Micah, Mayfield, lime burner and farmer 181.

Hestead, Anthony, . Valls" Mills," farmer 30.

Hickey, Edmund, Cranberry Creek, farmer 300. Hickey, Michael, Cranberry Creek, surveyor. Hill, Lewis, Broadalbin, farmer 100 Hollenbeck, James B., Mayfield, farmer 20. Hollet, James F., Mayfield, leather. dresser and school teacher.

Hollett, John H., Mayfield, farmer. 90. 1

Holon, Michael, Vails - Mills, tanner and farmer 10 .-

Houseman, William H., Mayfield, farmer leases of Mrs. Catherine

Becker 105. Howland, Frost P., Vails Mills, far- mer 300. Howland, Harrison, Vails Mills,

HOUCK

Who were the parents of Polly Houck born about 1800. She married Frank Vande Bogart. Children were

born In Cayuga. county and were

1 Mary, Rebecca, Dolly, Sarah, Loulse, John, Charies, J Joseph, James and William.

VANDE BOGART

Who were the parents of John and Frank Vande Bogart. John and 1460 No. Broad street,

Frank born around 1800. John mar- ried Polly Springer.

Mrs. Forbes Merkley, .

5285 Davison Road ,

Fiint 7, Michigan WEBB

WEBB

James Webb died at East Hamp- ton, Conn .. Oct. 12, 1817 age 84. Where was he born ? Who were his parents ? Who did he marry? His known children were Biiss born Dec. 6, 1764. He married August 5, 1792 N. Y. State seven years' half pay af- at Eastbury ' Parish, Glastonbury, Conn., Florinda Holmes of Eastford. Abigail died unmarried. Anna, who did she marry? Joshua married at East Hampton , Aprii 16, 1805, Ann Welch, daughter of Wllllam Welch. And James born March 21, 1777 probably at East Hampton. He married (1)' Betsey, daughter of children viz: Eliza born Nov. 17, John Faville of Manheim, Montgom- ery County, N. Y. They had three 1803 at Brookfield, N. Y. married William Tenney. William Waterman; John born at Manheim, N. Y. 1808. James married (2) Hannah Griswold. Mrs. Frederick Staehla, . She died at La Harpe, Ill. Oct., 1845. RD 1, Munnsville, N. Y. Who were Hannah's parents? When and where was she born? I would ELLIS like to correspond with any one who has any information about any of these peopie.

Information is desired concerning James Clark Owens who was born July 7, 1796. He married about 1816 Abigall Codelia Burr, daughter of Horace and Concurrence (Hunger- ford) Burr born Nov. 22, 1890 in. Montgomery county, N. Y.

Who were his parents and. where was he born? Mrs. Helen W. Vawdrey,

Box 233, Draper, Utah.

SPENCER

John Dewitt Simth) and had Sarah Jane Smith born about 1815-6 who

married about 1830-1 Abram A. Bo- gardus born '1794 at Fishkill, Dutch-

ess county, son of Cornellus and Elizabeth Roe (Van Voorhis) Bogar- dus. Who was ohn D. Smith?

I will pay $10 for records proving lines.

. Miss Carola W. Bogardus,

Hillside, N. J. . PETRIE .

PETRI

Wanted proof of parentage of Ja- cob Petri, ensign and later prisoner in Rev. War. He afterward founded Petrie's Corners, now Columbia Cen- ter In southern Herkimer Co. His father Is said to have been Joseph (Han Jost) Petri, Sergt. who was wonuded at battle " of Oriskany and died August 30, 1777, Joseph left a

widow, Barbara who received from ter his death. I belleve that Barbara wasa second wife and that the moth- er of Jacob was Marle Eva. I have much data on Petries gathered from various church records, but iack of proof for my own . probiem. Applica- tion on the milltary record of En- sign Jacob Petri has been accepted by Nath. Soclety DAR. If I could heip anyone seeking Petrie data, I would gladly do so and would be grateful to any person having the information I desire if they would write me regarding It.

Would like the ancestry of a John Ellis who was born Catskill, N. Y. in 1764. He married Mary Gager and they had 12 children. Names of some of the sons were John, Sylves- ter, Ira, Philo, Chauncey and Wil- llam. Girls were Betsy, Sally, Mary Katherine (called Katherine I think). This John born in 1764 was son of John Ellis born about 1730. That is ali we know about him. The one born in 1730, except that he is known to have taken part in French and Indian war of 1756 or 7. Is said to have been born in England. Mrs. N. M. Eiiis.

400 Main street,

Would like the address of anyone South Glastonbury, Conn.

Gazetteer, Business Directory of Montgomery and Fulton Counties

(For the years 1869-70)

(Copied by Leslle A. Frye, Glovers- ville, N. Y.)

Explanations to Directory.

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Mohawk Valley genealogy and history : [a compilation of clippings, 1945-1946], Part 19

Author: Publication date: 1942 Publisher: [1942-1949] Number of Pages: 276

Author:
Publication date: 1942
Publisher: [1942-1949]
Number of Pages: 276