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Mrs. Cecil B. Taylor,
600 Pine Street,
Clifton Forge, Virginia
LINK, RICHTER
Information wanted .concerning parentage of William Link who mar- ried about 1800 near Rhinebeck, Dutchess county N. Y. or Livingston Manor, Columbia county N. Y. Lydia Richter (dau. of Johannes Richter and wife
Catherine Reifenberg) bapt. at St. Paul's Luth. church, Red Hook Dutchess Co., N. Y., on Nov. 8, 1836 where he had died In 1831. This couple had daughter Catherine bapt. at St. Paul's in Red Hook Jan. 15, 1804; the 1820 census has them living at Aurelius, Cayuga Co., N. Y .; in 1823 they left Springport, Cay- uga Co. and bought land in Mt. Mor- ris, Livingston county, N. Y. Their other children were Elizabeth born 1810, Peter Hiram born 1812, John born 1805, William, James T., Em- ery' Abram and Anna:
Was William Link the person who was bapt. at St. Paul's church, Red Hook, Dutchess Co. Sept. 16, 1781 (son of William Link and wife Maria Kilmer of Rhinebeck and later of Copake, Columbia Co.) or was he of another Link family ? One of Lydia's brothers was Jonas Richter (Rector) of Aurelius, Cayuga Co., N. Y. in 1820 and possibly of Mt. Morris, N. Y. later.
ELIJAH .TUCKER
married around 1820 or 1822 Eunice Tuttle (dau. , of Joseph Tuttle and Hannah Messenger) who was born in Bridgewater, Oneida Co., N. Y.
Co., Ohio in 1866. He died in Con- cord, Ohio Nov."30, 1870 where they first bought land in 1835. They were
possibly in or near Lenox, Madison Co. or DeRuyter, Madison Co., Oran, Delphi or Pompey Co., N. Y., Oran,
Adj. John S. Lansing and wife Ma- ria Staats.
Margaret (Shannon) Campbell mar- ried secondly at Rensselaerwyck Town, N. Y. on Aug. 9, 1780 as his second wife James McKown (also a Rev. soldier) who was born in Ire- land July 24, 1745, dled at Schodack, Rensselaer Co., N. Y. on March 11, 1812. They had one child Elizabeth Mckown who was born at Schodack and married Abel French.
Margaret (Shannon) (Campbell) Mckown died at Schodack on Aug. 16, 1816 and was buried at East Greenbush, Rensselaer Co., N. Y.
I have not been able to place Mar- garet Shannon as a member of the Shannon family of New Hampshire or as a child of Robin or Robert Shannon of Normanskill, N. Y. or as his sister. Could she have been a member of a Shannon family possi bly from among the Scotch around Argyle, Washington Co. or of a Shan- non family in or near Schodack or Nassau, Rensselaer Co., N. Y .? Was she a widow of a Shannon when she' married Robert Campbell ? This mar- riage is recorded In the records of' Trinity Church Parish, N. Y. City which also record the marriage of James Tattersall and Judith Shannon on Dec. 24, 1766. These Shannons are not listed as members of Trinity Church so it is probable that the! Trinity Church rector performed these marriages on two of his visits among Episcopalians of Albany and vicinity. Who was this Margaret Shannon? Was she of the Shannons of Normanskill of the Robert Shan non family?
Glenn G. Tucker, 554 Parkman Dr., N. W., Warren, Ohio. .
VAN SLYCK
Data wanted as to parents of Dorothea Van Slyck who married Harman Van Alstyne (bap. Nov. 19, 1700, at Albany, son of Isaac Janse Van Alstyne and Jannetje Van Val- kenburg of Kinderhook) in Albany Nov. 12, 1721 . with honors. Their known children were:
Isaac bap. Sept. 9, 1722. Eva bap. Jan. 15, 1724. Jannette bap. July 3, 1726." All three bap. in Albany.
Catharina bap. Aug. 25, 1736 8 the Dutch Reformed church of Scho- harie, N. Y., married Willem Quack- enbush May 29, 1753 at the Reformed Protestant Dutch church at Caugh- Information® wanted concerning nawaga (now Reformed church of Fonda, Montgomery County, N. Y.) From the dates it would appear that there were other children be- tween the first three and this last mentioned. Any further data on about 1799 and died in Concord, Lake these also appreciated.
QUACKENBUSH
Who was the wife and mother 're; spectively of Willem. Quacknebush married in central New York state [ mentioned above? He was bap. in Queen Anne's Chapel at Fort Hunter, N. Y. Feb. 19, 1733-4. Abraham Quackenbush, William Prentop, Jr.,
Stephentown Feb. 12, 1821.
Celestie M. Hunt was born in Stephentown April 21, 1844. In Sand Lake June 30, 1868 by the Rev. I. B. Colman Albert O. Harris was mar- ried to Celestie M. Hunt.
Francis E. Hunt was born in Stephentown Oct. 4, 1845.
George Hunt was born in Han- cock Sept. 18, 1847.
Alzina Hunt was born in Stephen- town Feb. 2, 1850.
Frelove M. Hunt was born in Naz- sau March 29, 1855. JESSUP
Wanted parentage of one Edwin Jessup of Pelham, N. Y. Farmer; in early life'a school teacher Prospect Hill; married Susan Patten (or n). Children: Emily (George Martin); lived Port Chester, N. Y .; Helen (George Hyde) East Chester; Adella (Stuart MacCiaren ?); Philadelphia; Mary (Hunt) lived, perhaps Michl- gan; Susan who died young; Edwin Clausen born Pelham Feb. 24, 1846; married Nov. 1869 Josephine WII- liams in East Chester church which has since burned; records reported lost.
Mrs. William P. Allen,
206 Oak street,
Winsted, Conn.
WILLIS, ' CONSTANT, HOOD MORGAN
+ Data wanted on the ancestry of Rev .. Shadrach Willis, and his wife name unknown. ' One dau. 'married Captain John Constant , and their daughter Ruth Constant marrled 1792, born March 24, 1770, married John Strode, Jr., born Sept. 25, 1768 and had 15 children.
Major Andrew Hood also married a daughter of Rev. Shadrach Willis of Staunton, Augusta Co., Virginia. John Morgan married a sister of Capt. John Constant, therefore Ruth Constant was his wife's niece.
Captain John Constant came from Capon.
Capt. Andrew Hood came from the SHANNON, CAMPBELL, McKOWN
Red Stone country.
Names of descendants wanted and to whom married.
MOONEY, DARK
Data wanted on the ancestry of Patrick Mooney and wife (name un- known) whose daughter married Wm. Clinkinbeard* (known as ploneer) born Oct. 10, 1761, died 1843, married Mary Mooney, both buried in cem- etery Winchester, Ky.
Joseph Dark married a sister of Mary Mooney and she was a daugh- ter of Patrick Mooney and name of his wife unknown. Patrick Mooney was Scotch -- Irish and had taught school for seven years at one school on Cow Pasture River in Virginia,
Hook Dutchess Co., N. Y., on Nov. 8, 1836 where he had died in 1831. This couple had daughter Catherine bapt. at St. Paul's in Red Hook Jan. 15, 1804; the 1820 census has them living at Aurellus, Cayuga Co., N. Y .; In 1823 they left Springport, Cay- uga Co. and bought land in Mt. Mor- ris, Livingston county, N. Y. Their other children were Elizabeth born 1810, Peter Hiram born 1812, John born 1805, William, James T., Em- ery Abram and Anna.
Was William Link the person who was bapt. at St. Paul's church, Red Hook, Dutchess Co. Sept. 16, 1781 (son of William Link and wife Maria Kilmer of Rhinebeck and later of Copake, Columbia Co.) or was he of another Link family ? One of Lydla's brothers was Jonas Richter (Rector)- of Aurellus, Cayuga Co., N. Y. in 1820 and possibly of Mt. Morris, N. Y. later.
ELIJAH TUCKER
Information wanted concerning parentage of the Elljah Tucker who married around 1820 or 1822 Eunice Tuttle (dau. of Joseph Tuttle and Hannah Messenger) who was born in Bridgewater, Oneida Co., N. Y.
Co., Ohio in 1866. He died in Con- cord, Ohio Nov. 30, 1870 where they first bought land In 1835. They were married 'in central New York state. possibly in or near Lenox, Madison Co.' or DeRuyter, Madison. Co., Oran, Delphi or Pompey Co., N. Y., Oran, cording .. to family tradition Elijah Tucker was born and grew up in or near Hartford, Conn. and was possi- bly the son of Elljah Tucker, Jr. and wife Experience Bartiett of Vernon, Toiland Co., Conn. who had a on Elijah Tucker III born on Dec. 25, 1790 who had other sons Willard, Hiram and Dalford who may have resided In Central New York some time after 1820. Would like data on any of these men named Tucker, par- ticularly any Elijah Tucker.
Information wanted concerning parentage of Margaret Shannon who was born Jan. 10, 1741 (place un- known to the writer). She marrled first Albert, second Campbell (son of James Campbell and wife Sarah Simpson of Cherry Valley, N. Y.) born Aug. 20, 1735 at Londonderry, N. H., killed at Battle of Oriskany, Aug. 6, 1777. Was First Lt. in Col. Samuel Campbell's (his brother) Regt. Tryon Co. Militia. They were married at Rensselaerwyck Town, Rensselaer Co. (then Albany Co.) March 25, 1765 and had Sarah who married John Ostrander, Jennett
who marrled Evert Lansing and Sam-
vicinity. Who was this Margaret Shannon? Was she of the Shannons of Normanskill of the Robert Shan; non family ?
Glenn G. Tucker,
554 Parkman Dr., N. W., Warren, Ohio.
VAN SLYCK
Data wanted as to parents of
Dorothea Van Slyck who married Harman Van Alstyne (bap. Nov. 19, 1700, at Albany, son of Isaac Janse Van Alstyne and Jannetje Van Val kenburg of Kinderhook) in Albany Nov. 12, 1721 . with honors. Their known children were:
Isaac bap. Sept. 9, 1722.
Eva bap. Jan. 15, 1724.
Jannette bap. July 3, 1726."! AU three bap. in Albany.
"Catharina bap. Aug. 25, 1736-8 the Dutch Reformed church of Scho- harle, N. Y., married Willem Quack- enbush May 29, 1753 at the Reformed Protestant Dutch church at Caugh- nawaga (now Reformed church of Fonda, Montgomery County, N. Y.) .. From the dates it would appear that there were other children be+ tween the first three 'and this last mentioned. Any further data on about 1799 and died in Concord, Lake| these also appreciated.
QUACKENBUSH
Who was the wife and mother re- spectively of Willem. Quacknebush mentioned above? He-was bapit in. Queen Anne's Chapel at Fort Hunter, N. Y. Feb. 19, 1733-4. Abraham Quackenbush, William Prentop, Jr., Mary Quackenbush, suretles. He was the son of Jeremias Quackenbush (son of Pieter Quackenbush' and Neeltje Marinus bap. Oot. 26, 1713. The name of Jeremias Quackenbush appears in the Queen Anne Chapel records together ,with Geortruy Quackenbush as sureties In the bap- tisms of Jannette, daughter of Da- vid Quackenbush and his wife Anne March 15, 1740-1 and of Peter, son of John Collier and Magdalene (Quack- enbush). Was this Geertruy the wife of Jeremias or his sister ? Were there' other children besides Willem mentioned above? Willem is called "of Charlestown" in his will dated Mch. 4, 1815, probated Jan. 31, 1818. His tombstone in Florida graveyard in the rear of the Reformed church, Minaville, Montgomery county; N. Y. gives "William Quackenbush died Oct. 2, 1817 in his 85th year." He served in Capt. Jacob Gartner's 3rd Co., Col. Frederick Fisher's Regt. of Tryon Co. Militia in the Revolution- ary War. Certificate of the treasurer 29810, Voi. 1 State Library of N. Y. was issued to Wm. Quackenbush for his services, amount 7s, 1 d.
Mrs. C. C. Stanton,
uel R. Campbell who married Sarah 888 Ponce de Leon Ave., N. E. near Staunton, later moved down to Mynders. 'Evert Lansing was son of Atlanta, Georgia
Genealogical Sources in the Mohawk Valley
AND NEARBY
BIRTH, DEATH AND MARRIAGE RECORDS
( Continued from last week)
18$2, 1913, 1926. Register, 3 vols. Arr. chron. 1882-1913, no index; 1926 no index: 1926, .indexed alph. by children. Includes marriages 1882- 1007 and deaths 1882-1913, 1926. Custodian Ray Fitzgerald registrar of vital statistics, Cape Vincent. N Y.
Carthage (1841)
1897 Register, S. vols. Arr. chron. 1882-1913, no index: 1911 indexed alph. by children. Inc udes marriages 1885-1908 and deaths, 1887-1913, 1:08-27. Custodian, Frank H. Layng, registrar of vital statistics, Carthage, N. Y.
Cha -munnt. (1874)
1883. Register, & vols Arr. chron 1%
alp !.. by children. Inc'ndes :rrriges 198%-1007 and dea'ne lash Custo- "ann. Grunge P. Cutie, registra" . vital statistics, Chefram f. Y. ( layton . (1872)
18%%. Register. 6 ml; - cur n 15%2.1913. no ind: ::
als :. by children. Includes marriages 1482-97 and deachs 1'92 Custodia" Frank U Cantwell, registrar of vi- ta: statistics, Clavi». N 7
Deferiet (1921)
1922. Register, 1 vol. Arr. chron. Indexed alph. by children. Includes deaths. Custodian J. Elliot Wood. registrar of vital statistics, Deferiet, N. Y.
Dexter (1855)
1893. Register, 4 vols. Arr. chon. 1893-1913, no index; 1914 indexed alph. by children. Includes marriag. 23 1893-1908 and deaths 1893. Cus- todian Mrs. W. F. Sweeney, regis- I-ar of. vital statistics, Dexter, N. Y i"- 423 Mills (1922)
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the0. 5, 1946
The Myth and Reality of the Early Log Cabin
By Paul B. Mattice
This great country of ours was settled by peoples from many races and respective homelands. The prin- cipal groups came from the British Isles, Holland, France, the German Rhineland and a small group from ; treatment. It aims to be essentially
Sweden. The English went to Vir- ginia, New England, the Carolinas and Pennsylvania. The Dutch, Hu- guenots and Palatine Germans went to New York, to Pennsylvania in great numbers' and in sizeable groups .to New Jersey and Georgia. A small group of Ewedes settled along the Delaware river.
One of the first necessities of the pioneers was housing. Naturally the 'style of the construction of these first homes, if their crude hastily built shelters could be called homes, followed the type of construction . then prevalent in their native lands.
I. Introduction: The Prewar Years. A. A brief Survey of Economic Con- There was some similarity in the ditions and Outlook 1938-1939.
first shelters erected in the various colonies for they all were seeking protection from the elements. Each colony did however change their types of construction from the build- ing ideas brought with them from their homelands after they had been here a few years. Climate and the availability of building materiai were the causes of these changes in. most instances. Yet even in later years there still was a great variety in the types of construction, each colony producing its own type.
Source data on these primitive abodes has ot be culled from the records of many racial groups, rec- ords written at various intervals of time. Incredible and surprising as it may seem, there is today an almost universal misconception as to the type of shelters the pioneers lived in during the first years after landing on our coast. Most people, including historians, believe that the first set- tlers lived in log cabins. This doubt- lessly is not true. There is practically no data of any group of the first years of the settlement period to support any such conclusion. This belief is not only a fallacy but a comedy of errors, only less fantastic than P. T. Barnum's hoax of the Cardiff Giant, because later the log 'cabin did become a reality in all the colonies." Even ... our-best - historians, scholars and statesmen have been deceived and have helped spread this myth without a thorough investiga- tion.
The case of the president of Yale University is typical. Dr. Noah Por- ter speaking before the New England Society in 1883 said: "The original structures were doubtlessly built of logs and thatched ,one built at Ded- ham, Mass., in 1638 36 feet long, 20 feet wide and 12 feet in studs." Of course this was an error ,as log houses have no "studs" as any car- penter will tell you, but it is a fair sample of the acceptance of the log cabin myth of the housing of the pioneers
The New Englanders were strand.
"LOCAL HISTORY"
BY DONALD D. PARKER Brookings, South Dakota, "LOCAL HISTORY"-HOW TO GATHER IT, WRITE IT, AND PUBLISH IT'
(Continued from last week)
To consider more specifically how the war history of a community might be developed, the following outline is presented as one of several possibilities. The scheme is a com- binatlon of chronological and topical
narrative in form, but a topical dis- cussion of the impact of war upon the community seems preferable. Ai- though this plan may entail some repetition, skillful handling of the material can render this feature un- objectionable and, in fact, utilize it at certain points for emphasis. If sufficient information is available, it is suggested that occasional com- parisons might be effectively drawn between conditions, incidents, or rè- actions in the community during the two world wars.
1. Chief factors determining occu- pations and living conditions.
2. Vestiges of the great depression and recovery.
· 3. Relations between private enter-
prise and government.
4. How reflected in political and social life.
B, First Year of the War in Eu- rope, 1939-40.
1. Reaction in the community to prewar crises abroad and conflicting ideologies.
2. Reaction to American neutral-
ity program.
3. Degree of public interest or apathy-population origins in rela- tion to war questions.
C. The Period of Defense, 1940- 1941.
1. Changing attitude toward pre-
paredness and aid to Britain.
2. Forces of unity and disunity ---
influence of propaganda.
3. Participation in the national' defense program, military and eco- noniic.
4. Political and social repercus- sions.
II. The Community on the Home Front in Warld War II, December, 1941-194 -.
A. The Shock of Pearl Harbor and Its Effect upon the Community.
1. Crystallization of public opinion
on defense and war.
2. Reality or unreality of global
war, its duration, and meaning for
the individual and the group.
3. First efforts in transition from defense to war activities.
B. The Community in Relation to
the Progress of the War and to Na- tional and Statewide Developments.
1. Chief local events concerning
mobilization, · production, salvage,
bond purchases, civilian defense,
war relief etc. in 1942.
2. Same for 1943 and 1944 with
some comparative comments. C. Other Important Events More Purely Local in Character during the War.
1. Political.
2. Military.
3. Economic and social.
Note: Section C might be combin-
ed with Section B.
(To be continued)
reeds, boughs and branches built their first protection from the ele- ments. They covered their cellar re- vetments with a sod roof in many in- stances. Those first shelters with
The Provincral Council of Penn- sylvania in 1687 forbade the use of thatched roofs because of the fire hazards. They also discouraged the practice of digging into hillsides for a portion of the dwelling house be- cause of the dampness and danger to the health of the occupants. Other colonies passed. ordinances against the use of thatched roofs. Framed houses, were built earlier in New England than elsewhere for the rea- so nthat there was no lime for ma- sonry and clay had to be substituted. Clay was not as desirable a substi- tute in New Eigland as elsewhere because of the severer climate. Gov- ernor Winthrop was building a stone house in 1631 when a violent rain storm washed two sides of his house down to the ground.
The early use'of water power saw mills in New England also expedited
tle setlement of Linlithgow and
now is several , miles away in the town of Livingston. The St. John's of Livingston was formerly on the state road a little south of Liv- wooden chimneys and thatched roofs ingston and now is north of Eliza- were very inflammable. Thatched roofing was forbidden by Deputy Governor Thomas Dudley of Massa- located chusetts in 1631, yet the stubborn English continued to use thatched soon that there was no lime for ma- two or three times. When wooden shakes (split) or shingle began to be used there were less losses of homes by fire.
Ville at a crossroads called Manor- ton. The Germantown Reformed and Lutheran cemeteries are miles away from the present church- es. This is mentioned because some- times we are puzzled at not finding any early stones in cemeteries ad- joining the churches.
Most of the records of these early, churches are on file in the State Li- brary in Albany either in the manu- script and history room or on the shelves in books of the Holland So- ciety or the New York Genealogical and Biographical Society. Although some of these records extend nearly. to the present day in most cases the state has only copied records until 1850 or earlier. A few of the Long Island records were only published up through about 1720, so there is still a big gap to be filled. Possibly some of the above societies have these missing records; but if not, there is a chance for someone to con- tact the ministers of these churches and have them file their rcord with the state.
What Is In a Name?
One of our members' recently ask- ed, "Have you come' across many odd names in genealogical resarch ?". Here are a few samples. Gov. Endi-
records of many racial groups, rec- reeds, boughs and branches built
ords written at various intervals of time. Incredible and surprising as it
may seem, there is today an almost universal misconception as to the
type of shelters the pioneers lived in during the first years after landing on our coast. Most people, including! historians, believe that the first set- tlers lived in log cabins. This doubt- lessly is not true. There is practically no data of any group of the first years of the settlement period .to support any such conclusion. This belief is not only a fallacy but a comedy of errors, only less fantastic than P. T. Barnum's hoax of the Cardiff Giant, because later the log
cabin did become a reality in all the colonies.""Even. our -best - historians, scholars and statesmen have been deceived and have helped spread this myth without a thorough investiga- tion.
The case of the president of Yale University is typical. Dr. Noah Por- ter speaking before the New England Society in 1883 said: "The original structures were doubtiessly built of logs and thatched ,one built at Ded- ham, Mass., in 1638 36 feet long, 20 feet wide and 12 feet in studs." Of course' this was an error : as log houses have no "studs" as any car- penter will tell you, but it is a fair sample of the acceptance of the log cabin> myth of the housing of the pioneers
.. The New Englanders were strang- ers to log cabin construction until a short time before the American Revolution. By writers, orators, pa- geants and picture postcards this myth has been spread down to the present. The great, Noah Webster also did some myth spreading. In 1828 edition of his Dictionary a "log hut 55 was made synonymous with "log house." This misled many writers. A hut Is of much cruder construction than a house. This er- ror was corrected in later editions. Even Daniel Webster regretted in a speech at the Saratoga Battlefield that he had not been born in a log cabin assuming that the early resi- dents of New England had Ilved in log cabins. Of course Daniel should be forgiven for this for the blinding glamour of the White House had im- paired his insight. He was looking for the votes of the log cabin dwell- ers, there were so many of them. And even as late ag 1938 the Ro- anoke, North Carolina Pageant of | the Lost Colony still featured iog cabins. Why? They did not know that the Lost Colony had no log cabins.
The English pioneers, both in oak clapboards were among the very New England and Virginia, seem to hav had greater resistance to new ideas in housing than other pioneer racial groups. Perhaps that's char- acteristic of the English. In New England they led all the colonists in intellectual pursuits, in ship building and in trade. In Virginia they led the way in popular gov- ernment and statesmanship. Even our Constitution has a decided Vir- ginia slant. But in both colonies these English pioneers followed the traditional thinking of their fore- bears, that the English way was best Those first shelters were very crude affairs. The English of Nev England and l'ennsyivania ike th Dutch of New York, dug into the hillsider' and with ti mbers, en.
wooden chimneys and thatched roofs were very inflammable. Thatched roofing was forbidden by Deputy Governor Thomas Dudley of Massa- chusetts in 1631, yet the stubborn English continued to use thatched soon that there was no lime for ma- two or three times. iWhen wooden shakes (split) or shingle began to
be used there were less losses of homes by fire.
The Provincial Council of Penn- sylvania in 1687 forbade the use of thatched roofs because of the fire hazards, They also discouraged the practice of digging into hillsides for
a portion of the dwelling house be-
cause of the dampness and danger to the health of the occupants. Other colonies passed ordinances against the use of thatched , roofs. Framed houses were built earlier in New England than elsewhere for the rea- so nthat there was no lime for ma-' sonry and clay had to be substituted. Clay was not as desirable a substi- tute in New Eigland as elsewhere because of the severer climate. Gov- ernor Winthrop was building a stone house in 1631 when a violent rain storm washed two sides of ils house down to the ground.
The early use of water power saw mills in New England also expedited the building of framed houses altho frame house construction preceded the introduction of water power saw mills. The beams were hewn and the pianks were split from logs. The first water power saw mill in Am- erica was bullt at York, Maine in 1623 by a son of Sir Ferdinando Georges. Virginia was not far be- hind for she had a water power saw mill in operation in 1625, but. the sluggish streams of Virginia were not so adaptable to water power mill as the rushing hill streams , of New England. Sawn oak plank and riven first exports to England from New England.
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