Mohawk Valley genealogy and history : [a compilation of clippings, 1945-1946], Part 62

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1883. Register 10 vos, arr. chron. 1883-1905 and deaths 1883-1932. Cus- alph. by children. Includes marriag- es 1883-1907 and deaths 1883. Custo- dian Fred Hudson, town clerk (of Orchard Park), Orchard Park, N. Y. (To be continued)

I've suspected that Ebenezer Allen may have been a son-in-law to this Burgess Hall, Sr., but have not ex- plored the matter in detail. A Miss versed in the history of the town and Ruth M. Duryee of Cambridge is well its old families and · has been most generous in her advice and assistance to me in the past. I suggest that you try writing to her for further help on Ebenezer Allen.

My descent from George Soule of the Mayflower is in part as follows: 1. George Soule of the Mayflower married Mary Beckett.

2. George Soule, Jr., married De- borah ?

3. Nathan Soule died 1736, mar- ried 1704 to Mary or Mercy Gif- ford, died 1772. '

4. George Soule (1709-1793) mar- ried 1730 Avis Tibbetts, died 1756. 5, Nathan Soule (1738-1806) mar- ried 1762 Sarah Birdsell born 1735. References, Mayflower Index, Rid- lon -2:766, etc.

The Sarah Soule of your query was the daughter of George 4 and the sister of my ancestor Nathan 5. Of her Ridlon (2:771) says . . . born in Oblong, Dutchess county, N. Y. Dec. 5, 1744. We have no record of her marriage. The Quaker Irecords show that her son was born out of wed- lock in 1765. This ' son was named Tibbetts Soule and he was indentur- ed to his uncle John Soule during his minority, but tradition says he became dissatisfied 'with his treat- ment and ran away. He was married and became the progenitor of a large

another section of this book. Some say he gave his mother a home in his famlly; others that she married late in life. One record makes her birth June 4, 1747."

Your record . of her . marriage to Micajah Covell at White Creek, N. Y. in 1867 and her ousting by the Quakers seems to complete Ridion's all too brief sketch. I note with in- terest that her daughter Alvis was named after her mother.

Ridlon has 11 pages of notes con- cerming Tibbetts Soule and his de- scendants beginning on page 807

(Volume II) from which I quote in Priscilla Brooks in Conn .; removed to part as follows: Mass .and later into Vermont, where served in the Revolution. In his later days, he lived in New Haven, Vt., and he and his wife are both buried there. He died May 10, 1815, age 83. The 1810 census record shows Asahel 4 . . born at the home of his grandfather, 18th day, 12th month, 1762 on the first day of the week. Tradition among his descendants states that this young mah never knew his father's name but that he

were Baptist ministers, one Reuben II .located in Indiana. Philander lo- cated in Lewis county. His wife was Eliza Ann Stearns. I shall be glad to correspond with anyone who can as- sist me in climbing my family tree. Josephine S. Ross,

207 John street, Elkins, W. Va.

VAN KOUGHNET

Data desired on the ancestry of the emigrant .... Van Koughnet, said to have come from Colmar, Alsace-Lor- raine to Springfield, Mass. about 1750." Correspondence asked with de- scendants or persons by this name.

Data of William ' Van Koughnet, born June 10, 1795, died Nov. 6, 1879 at Constableville, N. Y. and also his wife Betsey, born Jan. 11, 1800, died, May 20, 1895. This family moved from Fulton county to Lewis county, N. Y. about 1831. Children were Nich- olas William, John, Nancy, Christina and Margaret.

WELDON, HELMER

Data of Daniel Weldon, Union sol- dier in the Civil War and also his wife Catherine Helmer, married in or hear Wellsville, N. Y. about 1850. Children were Hattie, Helen, Emma, James, Fred, Frank, Alfred and Clara.,

SPINNING, FRIARY

Data of John Riggs, Rev. war sol- dier born 1735 in Derby, Conn., died 1823 in Turin, N. Y. and also of his son wife Abigail Peet. They had James, also Rev. war soldier. He married Sarah Clark born 1757, died 1825. Data desired on her ancestry .. William N. Van Koughnet,

1126 Yale Drive, Toledo 9, Ohio

BLANCHARD

Asahel Blanchard married 1757

Reward for any information on the ancestry of Myron Milton Williams and families of Newark Valley, N. Y. born about 1815. Must have positive proof.

Mrs. Bea Robins, f*

2230 Delta Ave.,

Blanchard and Asahel Blanchard, Jr., | Long Beach 6, Calif.

The Old Red School House

By S. C. KIMM

The old red school house is gone and the happy days of hund: ds of boys and girls who played in the sandy school yard are but a mem- ory. In the early days it was 1:nown as the "Toll Gate School" bc ause it stood near the toll gate o" the old plank toll road that ran from Salisbury Center to a back woods settlement called the "Corner of the Grant" because here was the cast- ern corner of the Royal Grant a do- main of some 40,000 acres, given to Sir William Johnson by the king. extending northerly well to: ard Ohio and westerly to the West Can- ada Creek. Besides the "corner of the grant" it was called "Nichols-

ville" and later "Devereaux." Now the flourishing village of Stratford. That old toll gate where for many years lived the good old shoemaker, Uncle Billy Tanner was burned about 65 years ago. Thus was destroyed the last visible reminder of the old plank road over which was transported millions of feet of lumber. .

I have no records telling when the 'irst school was established in thi district. We do know that in 1796 the State Legislature appropriated $50,- 000 to support public schools of the The School Lottery of 1801 In 1801 the Legislature authorized four lotterles, the proceeds of $100,- 000 were to go one-eighth to the academies and seven-eighths to the commori schools. This was a favorite way of raising school funds unti lotteries were abolished in : 1821; state. To Herkimer county was giv- en 930 pounds or about $5,000 which divided by the number of school dis- tricts in the county would give each district between 30 and 40 dollars. From two to seven school commis- sioners were to be elected in each town to distribute this money to the school and organize the schools, ex- Probably our old red toll gate school amine the teachers and supervise the received a tiny portion of this lottery

land through the famous Onnetke Jans. Has the latter's line been trac- ed? Another dim tradition in the family is of hereditary rights to land in Hyde Park, London. I am hoping that some other branch of the family may have heard of similar traditions and may also know some- thing of Anna's ancestry. Anna's sister Hannah (called also' Phebe) married William Vickery, born Digh ton, Mass., 1771. They are both bur- ied at Fairgrove, Mich. Elisha and Anna Jenks are buried at Jenksville, N. Y. She died June 15, 1854; he, November 13, 1840. I am hoping that some of their descendants in . New York state may be able to solve this puzzling line, or at least to add some item of information which may pro- vide a clue for us to follow.

Bertha W. Clark,

10 Jamaicaway, Boston 30, Mass.

POTTER

Ichabod Potter who came to Sara- toga county, probably in or near Galway some time around 1780-1800. In what cemetery buried and what inscription, if any ?

· Mary Potter, daughter of Ichabod Potter who married Rouse Simmons about 1800. Who was her mother? Did she have brothers and sisters ? Who? Where born ? Who married ? Rouse and Mary Potter Simmons had & son Ezna whose son invented the Simmons mattress and became wealthy. When and where was Ezra born ? Married? To whom? Child- ren ?.

Laura Blanche Dunmore, 6516-6 Avenue N. W. Seattle 7, Washington.

ROWLEY

Would like information on the an- cestry and family group of John Rowley born Oct. 15, 1799 of Mina, Chautauqua county, N. Y., died Mar. 4, 1874, son of John Rowley , and Roxanna Westland and his wife So- phia Ellethrope born 1809, Onondaga, county, N. Y., daughter of Samuel. Ellethrope. WILLIAMS

vork. Each settlement was to form

1 school association and elect tw trustees to look after the school business. There seems to be no re- cords showing whether the toll gate school formed such an association nor the extent of its territory. So little, interest was taken in public ed. ucation throughout the state that the legislature failed at the end of the five year period to extend the $50,- 000 appropriation in 1800.

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Data of John Spinning, Rev. war soldier (served as private in Capt. Israel Chapin's company, Mass. MII- ditia, ) born 1753 in N. Guilford, Conn. or Ashfield, Mass., died 1816 in Flor- family whose records will appear in ence, N. Y. and also of his wife Je-

rusha Friary born 1752, died 1833. RIGGS, PEET, CLARK

Det-24-1946

Fund

In 1805 the legislature appropria d 500,000 acres of the public lands of the State of New York to be user forever . for the support of pub !! school education. This iaid the foun. dation of our common school fund, from which our Red House School drew support for more than 100

years.

School District Formed

In 1812 it was enacted that three commissioners should be elected in each 'town in the state to divide each township geographically into school districts. Each school district was to elect three school trustees to look after their school.

The amount of public money that went to the town of Salisbury was based on the number of, children in the town from 5 to 15 years of age. Our toii gate red school was to re- ceive a smali portion of this on con- dition that it expend this portion for teachers wages and raised by tax an equai amount which must also be spent for teachers' wages. The dis- triot must also raise by tax enough money to purchase a site and build A school house and appurtenances thereto.

There were about 15 districts and joint districts formed in Salisbury in 1812 making them today 130 years old. Our "Deestrick" schools are the oniy public institutions in New York that have existed for 130 years with- out a single change.

(To be continued)

GENEALOGICAL WORLD

The address for the American As- sociation for State and Local His- tory mentioned in the issue of Octo- ber 10 should have been Raleigh, N. Carolina instead, of New York as printed. We've just received the as- sociation's October bulletin "Writing Your Commuunity's War History," written by Marvin W. Schlegel, as- sistant state historian, Pennsylvan- ia Historical and Museum Commis- sion.

"LOCAL HISTORY"

BY DONALD D. PARKER Brookings, South Dakota "LOCAL HISTORY"-HOW TO GATHER IT, WRITE IT, AND PUBLISH IT

(Continued from last week)

Churches have produced more lo- cal history than any other organizezd group and the number of church histories is steadily increasing. While nearly all such works devote most of their space to their own church iife, a considerable amount of local his- tory of a general sort must be intro- duced in order to give the proper background for the strictly church history.

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Church sponsored histories are probably more easily soid than any other kind of local history for locai pride 'is united with church pride, church loyalty and religious fervor in inducing members to give both time and money to the gathering, writing and publishing of a history Miss Heien M. Wright, the success- ful author of two church histories, offers the following sound advice:

"In general a church history should not be written without the support of the congregation, at least in part. An interest in the financing of such a project stimulates an interest in the sales. This is an ideal situation. On the other hand, very few of the early churches in America seem to control enough wealth even to consider any- thing classed as so great a luxury as a history; the publication of the records themselves is almost un- thought of. Therefore, when a history is proposed, it is usually the work of one, two or three, perhaps a few, persons who assume the responsibili- ty financially. Some of the smaller historical booklets are financed by appeals for advertisements which are printed on the fly leaves. This, how ever, increases the cost of produc- tion as well as the cost of distribu- tion and it usually detracts from the appearance of the book. When sub- scriptions and advertisements are taken, the book is usually given away. When a few individuals back the project, the book is sold as easily as possible, and the balance needed to clear the cost of production is

met by those interested.

A truly cooperative church or par- ish history should be in the hands of a committee representative of all the various organizations of the church, such as the session, the trus- tees, the council, the Sabbath School, the adult organizations and the young people's clubs. The chairman of the committee should be an indi- vidual weil qualified for the position by education and training, tact, bust- ness acumen, and the ability to elicit enthusiasm and cooperation. While each organization should be respon- sible for its own history and list of membership, , the chairman, or one appointed by him, should edit all the materiai handed in and give it a unity which it otherwise would lack. A truly cooperative history of this sort would probably have little or no difficulty in finding a means of fin- ancing or raising funds to bear its proper share in publishing the church history.

Amother form of coopeerativve church history would be to have each church in.a community to agree to publish the history of each denomt- nation in a single volume. The ac- count of each such church would ne- cessarily have to be much shorter than that contempleted in the pre- ceding paragraph, yet a falrly ade- quate treatment of each denomina- tion could be published. An agree-

be reached by which

ment could

each church would be entitled to a number of pages in proportion to the money appropriated or raised for the project. Cuts could be as numerous as each church desired, under an ar- rangement by which the cost would be borne by the organization con- cerned. Such a cooperative history could have a part of the book or sev- eral chapters devoted to the general history of the community as a set- ting for the various church histortest The cost of this part, too, could be: shared under some arrangement fair to all. With ail the churches 'of a community cooperating and sharing in the production of such a local church history, it is difficult to, be- lieve that the project could be a fail- ure from the financial standpoint.

(To be continued)

Origin of the First Settlers of the Hudson Valley nd New York City

Before the Schenectady Genealogi- cal Society on November 6, 1945. A study of statistics of the num- ber of persons embarking at Queens- town or Messina for New York or other American seaports would show fairly accurately how many from Ireland or Sicily made up a part of our population. But no such deduc- tion could be drawn from individuals salling westward from the Texel, Amsterdam or Rotterdam. A Dutch flag at the masthead was no guaran- tee that its passengers came from any section of the United Nether- lands. As an example, for a long time it was not / known that Hendrick Hudson, captain of the Half Moon, was really Henry Hudson, an Eng- lishman. What proportion of Dutch blood can be estimated as extending

the two nationalities cannot be esti- mated.

The Van Rensselaer papers, fur- nish the earliest specific data on the immigration setting in after 1630. The names of the indentured ser- vants and employees of the patroon are ali given with the year of their arrival at the estates near Fort Or- ange. At the end of their terms, these people were free to go anywhere, and many went to Manhattan and in time were prominent citizens of the little metropolis. The complete num- ber of / Rensselaerwyck colonists is 243. Of these, 37 names are patrony- mics (surnames proper shared by all members of one family and passed on to the children of the males), 31 are foreign, . 'such as Scandinavian, English, German and French, while

Peter, son of John the farmer. Pleter Bronck is one the Van Rensselater lits. His name is perpetuated in the "Bronx" and the probable Danish origin_ of the name is forgot- ten. In New Amsterdam there were conditions of imported contract la- bor similar to those of Rensselaer- wyck, but the West India Company, were less successfui in transplanting. good materiai. In '1645 a letter sent the Netherlands gives some idea of the population. It said that New Netheriand did not begin to be set- tled uuntil everyone had the liberty to trade with the Indians, as before: that no one planned to atay beyond". and so would not apply himself to' the expiration of his bounden time,. agriculture. As soon as permitted ;. servants applied for their discharge .. built houses and formed plantations .. Aiso the English came; at first many servants; and later others to es -- England. So in place of 7 farms andi 3 plantations, there were 30 farms;

Genealogical Sources in the Mohawk Valley

AND NEARBY ABIRTH, DEATH AND IMARRIAGE RECORDS

.(Continued from last week) ERIE COUNTY

Akron (1849)

1887. Register, 18 vols. Arr. alph. no index. Includes mariages 1887- 1913 and deaths, 1887 -. Recods in- ciuded with those of Newstead. Cus- todian Delos Wilkinson, town clerk (of Newstead), Akron, N. Y. Alden (1869)

1880. Register, 3 vols. A.rr. alph. No index. Includes marriages 1880- sand deaths 1880 -. Custodian J. A. "Weisback, village clerk, Alden, N. Y. Angola (1878)

1882. Register, 11 vols. Arr. chron. 1882-1900, no index; 1901-indexed "alph. by childen. Includes marriag- es and deaths. Custodian Edward A. Lemmler, town cierk (of Evans,) An- gola, N. Y.

iBlasdell (1898)

tory mentioned in the issue of Octo- ber 10 should have been Raleigh, N. Carolina instead of New York as printed. We've just received the as. sociation's October bulletin "Writing Your Commuunity's War History," written by Marvin W. Schlegel, as- sistant state historian, Pennsylvan- ia Historical and Museum Commis- sion.

printed on the fly leaves. This, how ever, increases the cost of produc- tion as well as the cost of distribu- tion and it usually detracts from the appearance of the book. When sub- scriptions and advertisements are taken, the book is usually given away. When a few individuals back the project, the book is sold as easily

ting for the various church histories. The cost of this part, too, could be. shared under some arrangement fair to all. With all the churches 'of a community cooperating and sharing in the production of such a local church history, it is difficult to be- lieve that the project could be a fail- as possible, and the balance needed ure from the financial standpoint. to clear the cost of production is (To be continued)

Origin of the First Settlers of the Hudson Valley nd New York City

Before the Schenectady Genealogi- cal Society on November 6, 1945. A study of statistics or the num- ber of persons embarking at Queens- town or Messina for New York or other American seaports would show fairly accurately how many from Ireland or Sicily made up a part of our population. But no such deduc- tion could be drawn from individuals sailing westward from the Texel, Amsterdam or Rotterdam. A Dutch flag at the masthead was no guaran- tee that its passengers came from any section of the United Nether- lands. As an example, for a long time it was not known that Hendrick Hudson, captain of the Half Moon, was really Henry Hudson, an Eng- lishman. What proportion of Dutch blood can be estimated as extending among the millions of Americans? ? Until recent years very little mater- ial, was available to study this early period of New York history. It is now possible to identify quite accurately the personality of the earllest Euro- pean children born within the limits in Manhatttan and in the Hudson Valley.

The Half Moon, Orange Tree, the | this group of immigrants who have

Eagle and the Love left no one be- hind them, except possibly a very small group of Walloons. In 1624 the New Netherland arrived at Manhat- tan with 30 Wallooms and this may be rated as the first passenger ship to this port. Virginia heard of these immigrants but lost the first Euro- pean childdren born within the limits of the Dutch grant were Walloons, that honor being given to Jean Vigne and Sarah Rapalye. These French speaking colonists were little affil- iated with the Dutch, who followed, them during the next five years, al- though the increase in the total number was slow, both by birth and Immigration.

In 1628 when Dominee Michaelius sent off his impressions of America. to Amsterdam there were only 270 people in New Netherland. The Domine held a special service for the French who could not understand Dutch, but the exact proportion of

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The Van Rensselaer papers. fur- nish the earliest specific data on the immigration setting im after 1630. The names of the indentured ser- vants and employees of the patroon are all given with the year of their arrival at the estates near Fort Or- ange. At the end of their terms, these people were free to go anywhere, and many went to Manhattan and in time were prominent citizens of the little metropolis. The complete num- ber of Rensselaerwyck colonists Is 243. Of these, 37 names are patrony- mics (surnames proper shared by all members of one family and passed on to the children of the males), 31 are foreign, such as Scandinavian, English, German and French, while the remainder are baptismal names alone of father and child, showing that the owners were simple peas- ants; Jan the son of Teunic, etc. While the majority of this last group are Dutch from the vicinity of Van Rensselaers' estates mear Utrecht, others are probably non-Netherland- ers picked up from anywhere. It is

Roelof Jansen came to America on the Eeendracht In 1630 with his wife, Anneke Jans and 3 children, recorded as being from Maasterland. There are differences of opinion as to where this place was. Mr. Van Laer says it was on the coast of Sweden. Anneke Jams upon Roelof Jansen's death mar- ried Rev. Bogardus. Her many scendants have been involved In a famous lawsuit about Trinity church property in New York City. There is a legend among the descendants that their distant grandmother was & grandchcild of William the Silent and there is a convitlot. that all of her heirs were pure Dutch. Of cours Roelof may have been Swedish and his wife Dutch. He was of peasant origin-Roelof, the son of Jan. His son was killed in the Schenectadyy Massacre of 1690 and his daughters all marrled, so no present day de- scendants carry on his name. Other Roeiof Jansens appear in the early records, but evidence shows that they were different men. Names were also acquired from othre sources than towns, such as de Norman, descended from Paulus Jansz de Noorman or Paul the son of John the Norwegian. Another might be Peter Jansz de Boer

Peter, son of John the farmer. Pieter Bronck is one the Van Rensselater lits. His name Is perpetuated in the "Bronx" and the probable Danish origin of the name Is forgot- ten. In New Amsterdam there were conditions of imported contract la- bor similar to those of Rensselaer- wyck, but the West India Company, were less successful in transplanting good material. In'1645 a letter sent: the Netherlands gives some idea of the population. It said that New Netherland did not begin to be set- tied uuntil everyone had the liberty to trade with the Indians, as before? that no one planned to stay beyond" and so would not apply himself to the expiration of his bounden time,. agriculture, As soon as permitted ;. servants applied for their discharge,, built houses and formed plantations .. Also the English came; at first many servants' and later others to es -- England. So In place of 7 farms and! 3 plantations, there were 30 farms; and 100 plantations, as well cultié Vated and stocked with cattle as in Europe. But all immigration was stimulated by the management of company or patroom and never by the spontaneous energy of the col- onists themselves.

Next in importance to the Van Rensselaer papers are the entries of baptisms and marriages in the Dutch contributed a large portion of the "vans" found in our directories. The name of the village of origin was us- ed to distinguish between two people Refomed Church in New Amsterdam Thus in 20 years from 1639 to 1659, 59 per cent of those married were Dutch. In the 20 years from 1679. of the same first name and later the ! to 1699 out of 274 marriages, 25 were name prefixed by "Van" became the permanent last name of the family in this couuntry. from England and 10 from places in; Netherlands. Dutch immigration was at an end for the time. The na- [ tionalities mentioned in the church register do not include all within the of New York. A statement has been made that 14 languages were spoken on Manhattan before 16C !. In 1655: it was mentioned that there were: Baptists, Mennonites, Lutherans, Dutch Reformed, Puritan.3 or Inde -. de- pendents, atheists, altho no Jews in; New York.

(To be continued)

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Mohawk Valley genealogy and history : [a compilation of clippings, 1945-1946], Part 62

Author: Publication date: 1942 Publisher: [1942-1949] Number of Pages: 276

Author:
Publication date: 1942
Publisher: [1942-1949]
Number of Pages: 276