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We often hear the expression, "Those Palatines. They were unedu- cated illiterate, and very poor peo- pie." Such was not the case. In their mother country, they had been peo- ple of influence, of education, and some were of various trades and pro- fessions. A number had at one time, greath wealth and social' positions. Years of Wars, and the 'destruction of their homes, and the ravaging of everything they possessed, had de- cided them to look elsewhere for security. They fled to Holland, and then Queen Anne of England, inter- ceded for them, and took them under her wing, with promises of help. She sent them to America, There has been a great question, as to whether it was an act of benevolence or whe- ther the number had become 80 great, that they had become a nui- sance, and that she was anxious to get, rid of them and the expense of keeping them. Anyhow, they set out upon ... the high seas. -. Hundreds of them never reached America, but died on the way over, and were bur- ied at sea. Families became separat- ed, and in many cases, only the children survived. They were adopt- ed or apprenticed into families, who wer g'ready here, or signed into a form of bondage, which today, we would call slavery. They must pay for their passage, and the very fru- 'gal food that they had rece'vod, and' the very poor clothes upon their back.
The Palatines were placed in sev- eral camps upon both sides of the Hudson Rivers," where they housed. They were cold and hungry, and had ander the simplest_nanamoltise_ of_life
Himes Families In America
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The material in the next ' three paragraphs is copied from Michigan Pioneer and Historical Collections: "Himes, Emiline, Fairfielr, Lena- wee County, d. in Sept, 1885, age '53" (Vol. 9)
"Himes, George, old 'resident of Washtenaw County, d. May 25, 1889, age 77." (Vol. 14).
"Alonzo Hymes, of Porter, whose death was mentioned in the North- erner of last week, was 53 years of age. He was born in Aleighany coun- ty, New York, and came to Porter about 30 years ago. His wife, a sister of Mr. John Stilwell, died about six years ago, leaving to the care of her husband a family of five children. Mr. Hymes was an industrious man, who did all he could for the interest of his family, and his death was hastened by over exertion in their behaif. He died a Christian and in the hope of a bright immortality in heaven. All the physicians and lov- ing children could do was done in his behalf. His funeral was held on the 28th ult. at the Methodist Pro- testat Church. Dr. West officiated. taking for his topic. "The will of the Lord be done." followed by a few closing remarks by the pastor, Rev. William D. Tompkinson. Many friends attended the obsequies, and lent their kindly aid and sympathy, for which the friends desire to return their sincere thanks. - Paw Paw True Northerner, Feb, 5, 1885." (Vol. 8).
Descendants of Elien Himes Talbot, mentioned earlier in this series, who are doing some work on the Himes line, include Miss Irene Colegrove, New Beriin, R. D., N. Y .; Mrs. Stuart Talbot with 2 sons 2 dau, of Edmes- ton, N. Y .; and Mr. Chester Davis of New Berlin, R. D., N. Y. whose wife
was a descendant of Lydia, sister of Ellen Himes Talbot. .
Andrew Warren Himes, whose ancestry is unknown, was born about 1860 d. 'about 1942 and buried in West Adrian (Mich.) cemetery. An- drew Warren . Himes, whose , father died when Andrew was very young, spent most of all of his life in Lena- wee Co., near Adrian, Mich., dying at Birdsall, Mich. His children include: Warren Jasper Himes, b. about 1900 m. 1947 resides in Adrian Mich .: Miranda Himes b. about 1905 m. Claud Willet; and James A. Himes b. 17 Jan. 1909 m. 14 June 1934 Alice McGee now residing at 1200 Ridge Road, Ypsilanti, Mich. Andrew War- ren Himes is thought to have had an uncle who went south and never returned, and Celia Himes Walker was Andrew's sister,
Daniel Himes, ancestry unknown, of Napoleon. Ohio, had a son Semuel (whose wife Alfredia of R. F. D. 1, Massilon, Ohio, is living), Samuel was b. about 1852. His son Roscoe lives at 5990 Rossbach, Ypsilanti, Michigan. If efforts to locate more data on this branch are successful, the data will appear later in this series.
It is the opinion of Leah M. Simp- son, Sec. of the Lansing Mich., G. A. R. that the following three items from G. A. R. records of the Civil War may be connected to Himes families :
"Hines, George A. (veteran), Bruce. Enlisted in Co. G. 10th In- fantry, Oct. 23, 1861 at Dryden, Mich. for 3 years, age 21. Mustered Feb. 6, 1862. Re-enlisted Feb. 6, 1864 at Roseville Go. Mustered Feb. 16 1864. Corporal. Mustered out at Louisville Ky., July 19, 1865.
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Such was not use case. In wien mother country, they had been peo- ple of influence, of education, and some were of various trades and pro- fessions. A number had at one time, greath wealth and social' positions. Tears of Wars, and the destruction of their homes, and the ravaging of everything they possessed, had de- cided them to look elsewhere for security. They fled to Holland, and then Queen Anne of England, inter- ceded for them, and took them under her wing, with promises of help. She sent them to America. There has been a great question, as to whether it was an act of benevolence or whe- ther the number had become so great, that they had become a nui- sance, and that she was anxious, to get, hid of them and the expense of keeping them. Anyhow. they'set out upon+-the high seas. Hundreds of them never reached America, but died on the way over, and were bur- ied at sea. Families became separat- ed, and in many cases, oniy the children survived. They were adopt- ed or apprenticed into families, who. wer? already here, or signed into a form of bondage, which today, we would call slavery. They must pay for their passage, and the very fru- gal food that they had received, and' the 'very poor clothes upon their back.
The . Palatines were placed in sev- eral , camps upon both sides of the Hudson Rivers where they housed. They were cold and hungry, and had oniy the simplest necessities of life. They were "placed under the super- vision of Livingston or Livingston Manor, a land baron of thos days, and an officer of the Crown. They were sent into the forests, to hue the trees and to boil tar and turpentine for the Queen's Navy' Dissention arose. Some of the more influential of the Palatines demanded their rights. A few were able to return to England to piea for the others. As a i result, they were given a tract of land in Schoharie County, for those who wished to go. Days were spent in "hewing a road to their destina- tion. When they reached Schoharie, they found that they had been double-crossed again. The property they thought was theirs had been granted to others. These, Palatines, to whom, the Bible wase law, and whos' word of honor should not be broken, or, their word was their bond, were a desappointed and dis- heartened people. Deceived again! Could nobody be believed? Was no one honest? They could remain as tenant farmers, but would own nothing.
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My signature as it appears in your genealogical department is "H. C. LaRue, Cloriton, Iowa. It should be, H. C. LaRue, Chariton, Iowa H. C. LaRue
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Phillip Fairchild was the son of a Presbyterian minister, and by trade a hatter, He m. Sophia --- , and lived for several years in Chenango Co., N. Y. One dau. m. Luther Ingersol, another m. Wmn. Ingersol, Sons John and Jesse went to Mich. dau. Eliza- beth m. Samuel Wentworth, Sher- burne a lawyer. Grey lived several places in N. Y. St. including Coopers- town and Randough, later in. Blan- don Ottawa Co., Mich. Would like data of Phillip and his father and Sopiha. Also of Samuel W. Shur- burne.
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WERT, WIRT (Answer to Query of Apr. 1, 1948)
Ann Elizabeth Atwood : (dau. of Susanahn Holmes, whose ancestry is given in 1893 Allison Genealogy by Morrison, L. A. and her husband Thomas Atwood) b. 7, July 1831, Bedford N. H. went with parents to Nunda, N. Y. m. Wm. Wirt and res. at Hornellsville N. Y. She d. 6 Sept. 1884. He d., 14 April 1886. Children: Katie Wirt b. 20 Oct. 1859 Canas- eraga N. Y. m. 27 April 1889 Charles W. Richardson and res. at Dansville, N. Y. Children, born Dansville, N. Y .: Mary Jenette Richardson b. 23 Feb. 1891. Charles Wirt b. 26 Sept. 1861 Canaseraga N. Y. m, and res. at No. 10 Washington St. , Hornells- ville, N. Y. Susan Wirt b. 2 Sept. 1864 Canaseraga, N. Y. m. 28 April 1887 Fred H. Cowen; res. No. 88 : Cypress St. Rochester, N. Y. without issue. Anna Bell Wirt b. 15 April 1870 d. 24 June 1885.
Ann Eliza 'Wind p. 1893" Oneida Co. N. Y. resided in Ypsilanti, Mich. in 1893. George D.' Wird b. 1837 Ypsilanti Mich. lived Ypsilanti, Mich in 1893.
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md. Wm. Snyder; John md. Catherine McDowel; Paul md. Hannah; Jacob md. Clymeni Pierce; Elizabeth md. Jasper Near; Pamelia md, George Harp Deloney md. Abraham Farring- ton; Catherine md. Hezekiah San- ford.
I have one record that says Peter d. Delaney lock. In 1811 Nicholas moved to Madison Co., then in 1820 to Oswego Co., Settling ni Hastings where he died 189. Wife Catherine died 1842. After he left Tryon Co., the family seems to use the name Yerton.
Catherine Hufnail's father was Christian Hufnail or Hufnagle. He was killed in the battle of Oriskany 1777. Who was his wife? Where did these people come from? Were they Palatines? I cant' find them.
2 - Hezekiah Sanford, b. 29 Feb. 1792 (Otsego Co?) d. 25 Nov. 1849, Howand, Steuben Co., N. Y.
Md. Catherine Yerton, dau. of Nicholas and Catherine. b. 25, July 1799, d. 9 Jan. 1881 Howard, N. Y Children :
Newton Sanford 1819, Fremont, Steuben, N. Y., Statira' Sanfond 7 Sept. 1821, Fremont, Steuben, N. Y. Harriett Delaney, 29 Aug. 1823, Ho- ward, Steuben Co., N. Y. Mary (Polly) 1825 Howard, N. Y. Wil- liam, 2 Sept. 1827, Howard, N. Y .; Hezekiah, 12 Oct. 1829, Howard, N. Y .; Catherine, 23 Sept. 1831, Howard N. Y .; Sylvester, 1833,. Howard, N. Y. Nathan, 1835, Howard N. Y .; Sarah 1837, Howard, N. Y. Jesse, 1839 Howard, N. Y .; Permelia, 12 July 1811, Howard, N. Y.
Newton . md. Elizabeth . Banber, Statira md. Randall Beecher, Har- riet md. Sylvester Campbell, Mary md. Arnold Fuller, Catherine md. Martin H. Cooley, Sylvester md. Em- meline Campbell, Nathan md. Nancy Curtis, Sarah md. Charles Frazier, Jesse md. Juliette (went to Mich.) Permelia md. Moses Brunson.
Again, I am asking for information on any and all of the names given in this query.
Mrs. Anita P. Campbell 37 E. North Temple St.
Salt Lake City, Mich.
BRONSON, MIXTER OR MIXER HULL, DODGE, WEBB, McDONALD
Wanted to know the parents of Daniel Bronson, born July 30, 1762 (place unknown) died Jan. 31, 1836 in Warren, N. Y .. He m. Nov. 13, 1783 inu Waterbury, Conn: Hannah Hull b. Dec. 5, 1765 (place unknown) died Oct. 16 1838 in Warren, N. Y. Would also like names of parents of Hannah Hull and her birth place. Their son, 'Ira Hull Bronson was b
I want information ' of all , the names imentioned in the families" ---- 1-Nicholas Yordon, b. 7 May 1763, Canajoharie, Tryon Co, N. Y. md. | Dec. 26, 1893 in Jordanville, N. Y. Mar. 1787 at Ft. Plain, N. Y/ Cath- | and died July. 29, 1857 with burial at emine Hufhall (Hifnaele) Warren. N. Y. He m. June 17. 1820
N. Y. She was a sister or a half sis- ter of Ossian Euclid Dodge and a dau. of Polly Mixer Dodge who later m. Alex. McDonald. What was her fathers given name, his parentage and where was Elizabeth Dodge born. My mother Marilla Bronson Webb was a dau. of Ira Hull and Elizabeth Bron- son.
Mrs. Josie Webb, Brown 3840 Mockingbird Lane Dallas 5, Texas
Care of Lillian L:" McDonald " Richfield Spa., N. Y.
The Petries in America
These notes and records of the Johan Jost. Petrie family and de- scendants in America were compil- ed by the late Mrs. Frederick Staeh- la, of Munnsville, N. Y. Her notes have been checked, so far as we have been able to do so, and we will try to complete her work.
Dr. and Mrs. R. C. Petrie, Johnstown, N. Y.
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Again, a promise. The Governor of the State told them, that they might come over into the Mohawk's Valley, which was a beauiful spot and very fertile. The Palatines mov- ed again. The first idea of the Gov- ernor was to place them all together in one spot, but because they had been in different groups, it was de- cided to spread them out, in different locations. So we see them settling down to begin life again. The door "Dutch" were placed in strategic positions in the valley. Why not place them at the edge of the French and Indians. They were only riffraff in
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Ann Elizabeth Atwood : (dau. of Susanahn Holmes, whose ancestry is given in 1893 Allison Genealogy by Morrison, L. A. and her husband Thomas Atwood) b. 7, July 1831, Bedford N. H. went with parentis to Nunda, N. Y. m. Wm. Wirt and res. At Hornellsville N. Y. She d. 6 Sept. 1884. He d .. 14 April 1886. Children: Katie Wirt b. 20 .Oct. 1859 Canas- eraga N. Y. m. 27 April 1889 Charles W. Richardson and res. at Dansville, N. Y. Children, born Dansville, N. . . Y .: Mary Jenette Richardson b. 23 Feb. 1891. Charles Wirt b. 26 Sept. 1861 Canaseraga N. Y. m. and. res. at No. 10 Washington St. , Hornells- ville, N. Y. Susan Wirt b. 2 Sept. 1864 Canaseraga, N. Y. m. 28 April 1887 Fred H. Cowen; res. No. 88 Cypress St. Rochester, N. Y. without issue. Anna Bell Wirt b. 15 April 1870 d. 24 June 1885.
Ann Eliza 'Wind 'p. 1893" Oneida Co. N. Y. resided in Ypsilanti, Mich. in 1893. George D. Wird b. 1837 Ypsilanti Mich, lived Ypsilanti, Mich in 1893.
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I want. information ' of all .. the names mentioned in the families" 1-Nicholas Yordon, b. 7. May 1763, Canajoharie, Tryon Co, N. Y. md. Mar. 1787 at Ft. Plain, N. Y. Cath- erine Hufnail (Hufnagle).
Children born in Tryon Co. as far "Elizabeth Dodge b. Aug 17, 1799 died as I have been able to learn. Maria
Tran, 2 Sept. 1821, Howard, N. Y., Hezekiah, 12 Oct. 1829, Howard, N. Y .; Catherine, 23 Sept. 1831, Howard N. Y .; Sylvester, 1833,. Howard, N. Y. Nathan, 1835, Howard N. Y .; Sarah 1837, Howard, N. Y. Jesse, 1839 Howard, N. Y .; Permelia, 12 July 1811, Howard, N. Y.
Newton . md. Elizabeth . Barber. Statira md. Randall. Beecher, Har- riet md. Sylvester Campbell, Mary md. Arnold Fuller, Catherine md. Martin H. Cooley, Sylvester md. Em- meline Campbell, Nathan md. Nancy Curtis, Sarah md. Charles Frazier, Jesse md. 'Juliette (went to Mich.) Permelia md. Moses Brunson. :
Again, I am asking for information on any and all of the names given in this query.
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Salt Lake City, Mich.
BRONSON, MIXTER OR MIXER HULL, DODGE, WEBB, McDONALD
Wanted to know the parents of Daniel Bronson, born July '30, 1762 (place unknown) died Jan. 31, 1836 in Warren, N. Y .. He m. Nov. 13, 1783 inu' Waterbury, Conn: Hannah Hull b. Dec. 5, 1765 (place unknown) died Oct. 16 1838 in Warren, N. Y. Would also like names of parents of Hannah "Hull and her birth place. Their son, 'Ira Hull Bronson was .b. Dec. 26, 1893 in Jordanville, N. Y. and died July. 29, 1857 with burial at, Warren, N. Y. He. m. June 17, 1820
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the eyes of those already in the Burnetsfield Patent), and each re-jongh fear of cost of same, with valley. The French could easily , ceived a hundred acres of land, thirty | was two shilling's, and also time traverse the Black River Valley, on on the river and seventy on the certain "fanatics", thought that to- their way from the St. Lawrence and uplands. The nucleus of this settle- tism was an absolutely senseless at ment was undoubtedly on the south It is noted that while ;the Geraten side. The leading spirit of this settle- ment, no doubt was. Johan Herkimer. Jost 2. Canada. There was unchartered In- dian territory to the West. South of them was the head waters of the Susquehanna River, and the route to the Ohio. In other words, they would be. at the crossroads of travel in those days. What mattered it if a few Dutchmen were killed! There were lots of them, for they had large families. «
The route of travel was on the south side ofo the Mohawk, accord- ing to the latest authorities, and it was only after the settling of the Palatines in this territory, that a road was made upon the north side.
As started before, they were a very thrifty race, making most of the things they used. They were also very religious. The firs thing that they did, was to have a meeting place where they might worship . God, ac- cording to the dictates of their own consciences. Most were Lutherans, with some Dutch Reform. Their re- ligion was crude in some ways, if we judge it by the standards of today, but they did not lack in faith. If it had not been for records made by their visiting Pastors, we would have no records today of their births, baptisms, marriages or deaths. To these God-fearing men, we Palatines or sons and daughters of Palatines, owe a lot. Their religion was simple, but sincere.
The Mohawk Valley, then as today, became the trade route for the people going west; became the line of march for the Armies, in their fight against the French and Indians and after- wands the English. The pontage around the Falls at Little Falls, was big business. The "Dutch" cut down the trees and cleared the land; plant- ed and cultivated the fields; ground their own grain. Note the gris-mill n which Daniel Perie was murdered by the Indians and Tories on Fur- race Creek, at Little Falls. After a few years, they were beginning to thrive again, and had begun to for- get some of the troubles that had haunted them, so far.
The first dated Patent of Land, was dated April 30, 1725; Ninety-two names are on this first patent, (the
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(Old Fort Herkimer Church by W. N. P. Dailey - E. & N.) In 1758, the French and Indians attacked Fort Herkimer, killing thir- teen inhabitants. The descriptions of these raids are given in the above work, so ably, by Rey. Dailey, that those interested in details are referr- ed to it. He gives records, dates, personnel, etc. which I will not place in this article, because of space. It would make this story too long.'
Under date of Dec. 1814, in a Latin note of record, Rev. Spinner deplores the fact that so few persons were willing to have the birth of their children recorded partly thr-
Flatts baptisms from 1802-1816 awwar- aged one hundred and twenty auneEt- ally, in . 1811 they had fallen off the forty-four. That was the xmediterr registered, but undoubtedly the birth rate had kept up. In 'Dec. 17, 15, after thirty-four years of pastamitte, of Domine Spinner, he tabulates the foliowing. Received into the omurit, 1000; married,, 692;' baptised CHAD funerals, 649. He reports 395 dans- ren in the German Flatts conguage- tion and 60 Africans. The mantier- ship from here gradually declimsst? (Old Fort Herkimer Church, digg W. N. Dailleso
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