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WIRT FAMILY-By Kelker, Vol. 3 History of Dauphin Co., Pa.'
.John Adam Wirth (as the name was then spelled), the pioneer ances- Tor of Mrs. Jacob H. Rowe, was born in Germany 1727 and was the pro- genitor of the family in Dauphin Co. "having come to this county! in 1788 from Lascaster Co., settling near
Jacob, Adam and Joseph ; and one daughter who married Danicl Stever who was a soldier in the Rev, War. | John Adam Wirth died in 1806 and his wife in 1808 and their remains were interred in the cemetery at Kil- iinger.
George Wirt, son of John Adam and Eve Elizabeth Wirth, was born on the old homestead April 19, 1770. He was reared on a farm and resided with his father until he attained manhood, when he succeeded to a portion of the original tract. He was a prosperous farmer and was highly respected throughout the community. He married Catherine Nutter, born June 25, 1775 and their children were: Elizabeth, married Jacob Plsh; Catherine, born 1800, married Jonas Hocker; Lydia,, born 1805, married Samuel Ferdt, died April 8, 1864; John George'Wirt, son of George and Catherine (Mutter) Wirt was born March 7, 1808, died May 20, 1891. He was educated in the common schools, became, like his ancestors, a prosperous farmer and suceeded to the old homestead which his daughter, Mrs. Jacob H. Rowe still owns, the farm being where the original log cabin was built. He was a very generous man, a liberal con- tributor to the church and by his straightforward life won the confi- dence of all with whom he was as- sociated. He married Catherine Drei- blebis, daughter of Isaas Dreiblebis and the widow of Jacob Deibler. She was born in 1808, died June 16, 1880. The three children of Mr. and Mrs. Wint that grew to maturity were: of Leila bor nNov. 16, 1839, wife Jacob H. Rowe; Mary, born Sept. 22, 1842, became the wife of B. W. Holtzman; Linda born Aug., 1846, became the wife of John E. Weist. Please note name spelled Nutter at one place and Mutter at the oth- er. It was that way in history, so do not know which is correct.
1817 and of his wife Mary Hurd who died 1813.
Also I should like to determine the ancestry of Deborah Ladd who mar- ried 1795 Henry Ripsom, probably in Madison county. The Ripsom fam- ily Bible includes this entry of mar- riage but the place is not mentioned. Fran kWoodruff Buckles, 1275 Washington street, San Francisco 8, Calif.
WANAMAKER, WAY, LITCHULT, TEMPLEMAN, ALQUISH
Peter Wanamaker born 1743 in Bergen Co., N. J. married Easter Pulis. He is supposed to have served in Capt. Aurie Blauvelt"s Co. of Hay's Regt. of N. Y. Militia in Rev. There is an undated pay roll slip for 5s , 4d and another dated Feb. 23, 1786 for same amount and his X mark showing him a member of Lt. Col. Gilbert Cooper's Orange Co., N. Y. Militia. He died in Rockland Co., N. Y.
The DAR lineage book, Vol. 103, page 307 continues Peter's line a lows:
His son Andrew 1784-1881 mar- ried Maria Litchult.
His son Isaac 1818-1890 married Mary Way.
His son George 1846 married Bes- sie Templeman.
His daughter Hazel born Bethany, Mo. married John Sherwood Alquish and she was last recorded as living at San Antonio, Texas in 1927.
Information concerning any of the people above will be appreciated.
HEALD, HALE
Sarah Heald of Springfield, Mass. married Nov. 12, 1640 at that place John Leonand. They had 15 children. Her data askéd.
MANSFIELD
Andrew and Bethiah Mansfield of Lynn, Mass. had a daughter Bithiah 1658-1720 who married May 7, 1678 John Connant born Dec. 15, 1652 Bev- erly, Mass. Andrew was son of Robt. died 1666 and Elizabeth died 1673, Mansfield. Their data asked.
Vincent Wanamaker,
25 Park street, Montclair, N. J.
Copied by Mrs. Roy Miller, Berrys- bury, Pa. .
RIPSOM
In the Jan. 22nd issues appeared a request for information on the Reib- som (Ripsom), Ladd and Hurd fam- ilies to which no answer was received and I am again writing in the hope that some source of information may be available ...
My paternal grandmother Harriet Killinger, among the Indians and his | Caroline Ripsom was born in Madi- :farm was the site of an Indian vil- son Co., N. Y. Dec. 3, 1825, near Georgetown or Sazenovia. She was a daughter of Henry Ripsom born 20 Aug. 1796, married 1824 Caroline Hurd born 22 July 1807. Tage. He became very friendly with the Indians and they showed him ev- ry courtesy. In the early settlement a wounded Indian was brought to his "home, whom he and his family nurs- Henry Ripsom was a son of Henry Ripsom and Deborah Ladd, married 1795. Led back to health and the gratitude of the Indians was shown in their . every aot thereafter. Mr. Wirth was I believe Henry Ripsom who mar- of med Deborah Ladd 1795 to be grandson of Mathias Reibsom (Rip- som) of the 1st Tryon Co., Regt., who was killed at Oriskany 6 Aug. 1777 and I am interested in obtain- ing a list of children of Mathias Reibsom and if possible descendants to the third generation. one of the five original settlers Lykens Valley. He prospered in all De undertook and accordingly be- kcame the owner of twelve hundred 'acres, which he divided among his sons, and he also gave one farmi to the Reformed Congregation and a farm to the Lutheran church of "which he was a member.
Also I should like to know if there is a record of burial of Bethel Hurd,
His wife, Eve Elizabeth Wirth, born in Germany 1730( bore him the a soldier of the American Revolution Following children: George, Christian. in the cemetery at Georgetown, died
JOHNSVILLE, (N. Y.) ENTERPRISE AND NEWS
THURSDAY, AUGUST 5th, 1948
Site of Indian Village Will Be Excavated
The first", attempt to conduct & thorough scientific excavation of a Mohawk Indian "castle" will be started 'this fall by members of the Van Epps- - Hartley chapter of the New York State Archeological as- sociation, it was agreed at a recent meeting.
The area archeologists, whose chapter headquarters are in Sche- nectady; will assist | Rev. Thomas Grassmann of Tekakowitha Friary, Fonda, with the careful exploration of the site of the stockaded Indian Sown of Caughnawaga, located on the property of the . friary, west of honda. This site was occupied by
Mohawks From about 1067 until 1693, when it was destroyed in a French rail. It was at Caughnawaga that the first Jesuit mission among the Mohwalks, St. Peters was located for several years, and at this chapel the Indian girl . Catherine Tekakwitha for whom the present friary is nam- ed, was baptized. The site ds now owned by the Franciscan border. Plan Museum
A museum is now being equipped in the basement of "the present. St. Peters' chapel at the friary, and it us hoped that the work of the archeo- logists will make it possible to re- construct the Indian villages with its bipckade and bark log-houses exact- ty' as ttowas more than 250 years ago, as well as to secure a complete collection of Indian implements for tim Mohawk, , implements . bound by the Van Epps-Hartley chap- Veral, years ago' on the Martin Mails west, of Caughnawaga, will also be deposited at. the friary, as it is believed that this site was an boutpost (of the main castle, to which the Indians would flee for re- fuge in time of attack. The French accounts , of the burning of Caugh- nawaga in 1693 speak of the destruc- tion of a small village a mile farther west.
Local Man Aids in Project
Preliminary explorations of the Caughnawaga site have been carried on during the past year by Rev. Grassmann with the ald of Donald L'enig, of St. Johnsville and Wayne Arnold of Albany, both members of the 'Van Epps-Hartley chapter. Mr. Arnold is former secretary of the
YMCA in Little Falls. Air photo- graphs of the site have been secured which appear to show the circular mark of the former palisade, in ex- actly the location shown of a map of the site made by the late General John S. Clark of' Auburn during the 1870's, when the first active interest in the Mohawks was taken locally ..
The test excavations carried on last year revealed the post holes of a number of iog-houses. At a meet- ing at Tekakwitha Friary on Sep- tember 19 the Van Epps-Hartley chapter members will make further preliminary test excavations and lay out a plan for the eventual study of the entire site.
None Thoroughly Explored
Autho many Mohawk sites arc known in the area between Fort Hunter and St. Johnsville, no site which can be identified as one of the historic Mohawk castles or vil- lages has ever been systematically the so-maler."Tower inatle" of the excavated, it is pointed out. About make more than occasional trips to tory.
40 years ago the Peabody Museum of Harvard university excavated parts of the Garoga and Ganada sites, but
The Caughnawaga excavations will be the most ambitious ever un- dentaken by the Van Epps-Hartley chapter, which has, however, exca- vated three small prehistoric villages of other Indian groups, located in the Mohawk and Hudson valleys .. It is expected to require several years, since members will not be able to
curately. He is also carrying'on an exhaustive search of the published and unpublished historic records"of the Mohawk occupation of this earea, in this country and abread., which will eventually provide a complete history of all that was known to the French, Dutch and English about the names and locations of the Mo-, hawk Indian towns at various per- jods.
Other Excavations Possible
If the Caughawaga project proves successful, it is, hoped arrangements can be made with property owners to conduct similar carefree excava- tions on other important Mohawk sites of other periods. This project, over a period of years, will provide information ' about the life of the Mohawks at all stages of their his-+/
Need for Them Greater Than Ever
British Help Americans In Tracing Blue-Blood Kin
By RUSSELL LANDSTROM
London-(AP)-A Kansas woman read in her newspaper that lots of Americans have British blue blood and probably; don't know it.
That Associated Press story from London roused her curl- osity. It eent her burrowing into dusty family records. In the end it impelled her to write Debrett'e Peerage, the Who's Who of Britain's titled families, asking pertinent questions about her line- age.
The upshot was that C. F. J. Hankinson, editor of Debrett's and genealogical expert, was able to assure Mrs. J. L. Hackney of Inde- pendence,. Kan., that she was descended from the Smiley .clan of County Anthrim in Ulster, with a baronetoy and a coat of arme in the family.
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THAT IS typical of many similar requests from . Americans which have created a boom in pedi- gree sleuthing, chiefly by Debrett's and' the College of Arms. The lat- ter, royally eponsored and steeped in some 500 years of heraldic his- tory, has the last official word on British family trees and armorial bearings. ,
. By no means all the requests have eo gratifying an outcome. Scores turn out to be romantic myths. "Others take yeare to in- veetigate fully; records' may be obscure or lost and "missing links" dead.
As a rule, Inquiries are treated confidentially, at least while they are hanging fire. The College of Arms especially ie secretive about its overseae correspondence, main- taining' a policy of "ethical
silence."
A staff of 13, ranked as "kings of arms," "heralds" and "pursuiv- ants" (minor heralds), devotes it- self entirely to research into fam- ily histories. All are specialists In heraldic work. Each has his own string of clients.
For its services the college charges fees varying' from $15 to $25 for eimple family research to an average of $500 for a grant of arms. The money thus paid in goes to the researcher, who also receives a emall fixed ealary. *
SINCE THE 15th Century the college has been · empowered to grant coate of arms under letter of patent. Many of these are awarded to commercial and manufacturing firms, welfare and fraternal . so- cletiee, schools and universities.
Anthony Richard Wagner, a
herald who deals with many re- quests from abroad, says. Ameri- cans chlefly want. their ancestry traced. Some applicants ask the history and meaning of a coat of arms. Others seek a grant of arms. New coats of arms are designed after all details have been settled between applicant and . college, mostly by correspondence, often by personal visits.
"Before the war," Wagner said, "there were regular seasons of American visitore seeking informa- tion, Naturally, the war inter- rupted this. I dare eay that in a couple of yeare it will be the same as it used to be. Americans seem to be very pedigree-conscious." >
The College of Arms works close- ly with a number of state historical and genealogical eocietiee in Amer- ica, especially, Wagner said, with the New England Historic Geneal- ogical Society of Boston. * * *
HANKINSON , AND his asso- ciates at Debrett's have helped track down many a missing heir to a title. One of the most recent discoveries wae Robert Hardinge of Denver, Colo., who will succeed to a baronetcy upon the death of Sir Charles Edmund Hardinge, now 69. Investigation disclosed that the American, once a cowboy, and Sir Charles are second cousins and closest of kin.
Less successful were efforts on behalf of a Nebraska woman who said that during the Civil War one of her forbeare was summoned to take up the "Earldom of East Suf- folk," but because of the war was unable to accept it. ..
"I had to reply there evidently was nothing to the story," Hankin- son eaid. "There never has been euch an earldom and we could find no titie' with which it might have been confused."
Equally fruitless was eome fam- fly detective work for a New York woman, who thought / she might have descended from a daughter of the third Marquess of Londonderry who, so ran an old story, married. her coachman, was disowned and voyaged to the United States,
the site. Rev. Grassmann has es- tablished bench-marks on the site, so that the location of all excava- only enough work' was done to get tions and finds can be mapped ac- samples of the Implements used. The Peabody Museum has furnished the local students with the''report on the local students with the report on these excavations made by M. R. Harrington. Collectors of Indian re- lios have dug for implement on most of the other sites, but not according to any plan, or for the purpose of mapping or restoring the villages as they were in Indian times.
Work May Take Several Years
ST. JOHNSVILLE, (N. Y.)
„THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 9th, 1948
MOHAWK VALLEY
GENEALOGY AND HISTORY
St. Johnsville. Enterprise and News, St. Johnsville, N. Y.
THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 9th 1948
Questions and Answers
A department devoted to the pursuit of knowledge. No charge to regular subscribers. Any reader, whether subscriber or not, is in invited to submit answers. Gives dates, places and sources.
WINCHELL, LATTIMORE, LATIMER
According to a Winchell Gen. Eli- prob. of Augusta Co., Va., whose jah Winchell was born in N. E. 1741, yet in April 1762 he enlisted, aged 23 (which would have him born in 1738-39) from Schaghticoke, at that time in Albany county, as a minute man; killed in action 1781. He mar- STEELE, RAMSEY, FINLEY ried Margaret Latimer (a daughter spelled it Margarite Lattimore) prob- ably in Albany county and I would like to know when. They had eight children, according to above Gen .; the two youngest were Elijah born 1781 and Letitia born 1779 (Bible record) who, married 1801 John Reese and from whom I am descend- ed. Three of the names of the six older children of Margaret and Eli- jah ame known. Cornelius, who left bome when young and was never STEELE, FULTON, FINLEY heard from. Is he listed in any 1790- 188 censuses ?; Isabel, who married Lewis Van Antwerp of Albany, N. Y .: Maria; who married a Pinckney and lived in Michigan. What were the names of the other three, and what was the order of birth of the eight children ? Would like to contact any descendants. An ancestor of either Elijah or Margaret may have been a Huguenot. After the death of Elijah, Margaret taught school and later (when ?) married a Grabbe (Crabb ?) by whom she had two sons. The family moved to Half-Moon- Point, Saratoga county (formed from Albany Co. in 1791). Were Letitia Winchell and John Reese married (June 10, 1801, Bible record) in Half Moon ? (Source of above data: Gen. Marie Lyle, Schuyler's Mss. at Albany; N. Y. | Lyle Heights, Hist. Soc., Coll. 1891; D. A. R. Vol. Paso Robles, Calif. 31, 1900 and Bible of John Reese). Mrs. Albert Santos, WEED, KNAPP, BARNUM - 3558 Gray street, Oakland 1, Calif.
HUGUENOTS
The following letter was received by Paul B. Mattice, 1680 Neilson St., Utica, written by J. H. de Ruyter, Amersfoort, Holland:
In the archives of Holland is much genealogical data regarding Ameri- can immigrants as well as about Huguenot families. As many Hugue- mots lived in Holland before they left for America, there are in many cases connections to be found here. They are records of many Canadian fanii- lies included.
From notes in my filing system, there appears data on the families mentioned in the enclosed list.
The data above includes births, marriages and deaths and concerns old Dutch families, the Huguenots and their' relatives. From 5 to 400 individual entries to 'the surnames. If you desire more information TIabeth Irish; 2. Sarah 1771-1852 mar-
REID, FINLEY, WALLACE
Ancestry asked of Andrew Reid, daughter Esthe rmarried 1775 John He took the name of his father, who for many years and at the time of his death in 1812. was a deacon in Finley born Augusta Co., Va. Nov. 16, 1738, died Staunton, Va. 1802; served in' Am. Rev. and was son of the Congregational church of the William Finley and Mary Wallace. West Parish in Stafford, Conn ..
Ancestry asked of the Mary Steele who married Andrew Ramsey. Their daughter, Mary born Oct. 26, 1786, died Lincoln Co., Mo., Dec. 8, 1851 married Oct. 8, 1811 James Finley, born Vo. July 19, 1783, died Lincoln Co., Mo. Sept. 2, 1866, son of John Finley and Esther Reid above. James and Mary (Steele) Finley lived for a time in Shelby, Co., Ky.
Ancestry and bros. and sisters ask- ed of Samuel Steele, of Augusta Co., Va. who married Mary Fulton. Two of their daughters, Sarah and Ros- anna married two Finley brothers, sons of William Finley, Sr. and Mary Wallace.
1. Sarah Steele bapt. Augusta Co., Va. April,' 1744, died Ky. 1822, mar- ried Staunton, Va. June 1768 Wil- liam Finley, Jr., bapt. Augusta Co., Va. Oct. 26, 1740, died Shelby Co., Ky. 1806: They had 9 children.
2. Rosanna Steele married Robert Finley, bapt. Augusta Co, Va, May 16, 1745, died Ohio. They also had 9 children whose data I shall be glad to share.
Wanted ancestry and brothers and sisters with dates, locations and mar- riages of the John Weed, Jr. of Stamford, Conn. who was married by the Rev. John Avery. Dec. , 11, .. 1783, to Hannah Knapp. Was he the Am. Rev. soldier .born Stamford, Conn. 1747 who enlisted in Capt. Sylvanus Brown's Comp., Col. Chandler's Regt. Conn. Line and was father of Han- nah A. who married Tra Barnum ? See DAR No. 67127, Vol. 68, p. 45.
FULLER
Rev. Samuel Fuller, Jr., the mis. sionary.
I would be very glad to receive more data on the ancestors of Rev. Samuel Fuller, Jr. who was born at. Stafford, Tollard county, Conn. on 21 Sept. 1767. He was the eldest of four brothers whom he outlived sev- eral years, and of three sisters who were all older than himself, but one survives.
The grandfather of Rev. Samuel Fuller, Jr. dived for many years in Ashfield, Mass. where he died in the year 1795 having been born in 1700. His ancestry can be traced back two generations and as his forefathers emigrated from , Rehoboth, Mass. there is reason to suppose that they were descended from Dr. Samuel Fuller, one of the Pilgrims who land- ed at Plymouth' in 1620.
The grandfather of Rev. Samuel Fuller, Jr. married a. Miss Blodgett, a descendant of the Huguenots who fled from France after revocation by Louis XIV ,of the Edict of Nantz in 1685.
The father of Rev. Samuel Fuller; Jr. married a Miss Merrill and her mother's name was Belknap, both Merrill and Belknap having come from Haverhill, Mass.
Rev. Samuel Fuller, Jr. was. . the son of a farmer and his early life's to the seventeenth year was spent in ) the cultivation of the soil. He pre- pared for college in the study of the Rev. Mr. Willard, pastor of the Con- gregational church in East Stafford, Conn .and a son of one of the early presidents of Harvard College.
He entered Dartmouth College in 178 and received his B. A. in 1791 and for some time studied medicine. In the autumn of 1791 he started the study of theology with the Rev. Ephraim Judson of Sheffied, Mass., an uncle of the Rev. Adoniran Jud- son, D. D. the well known mission- ary of Burmah.
He remained some time with Mr. Judson and in June, 1792 was exam ined by the Berkshire Association respecting his knowledge of theology and theology and was granted a li- cense to preach.
. His first sermon was preached in Nobletown, now Hillsdale, N. Y. on Sunday, July 8, 1792.
On November 11, 1792 he was married at Woodbury, Conn, by the Rev. Noah Bennedict, pastor! of the WEED, HOYT, IRISH Congregational church to Miss Ruth Pond, the eldest child of Edward Ancestry and brothers and sisters with dates, locations and marriages, asked of Gilbert Weed, born 1740, Westchester Co., N. Y., died 1823, Cayuga Co., N. Y., married 1764 Ab- igail Hoyt 1745-1823. Pond of Woorbury, Conn. Her moth- er was the only sister of Ephraim and Adoniram Judson (Sen)) Rev. Samuel Fuller, Jr, followed the wave of migration, from New .. Full list of their children also England to ' Greene county fin New York where he preached March 26, wanted with dates, locations and 1793 in a school house at Durhami marriages. Known are 1. Alexander, born N. Y. died ,1849, married Eliz-
N. Y. Two weeks later he moved along to Rensselaerville, N. Y. where) he tarried at Mr, Stephen Collender's
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Elijah, Margaret taught school and later (when?) married a Grabbe (Crabb ?) by whom she had two sons. The family moved to Half-Moon- Point, Saratoga county (formed from Albany Co. In 1791). Were Letitla Winchell and John Reese married | (June 10, 1801, Bibie record) in Half Moon ? (Source of above data: Gen. Schuyler's Mss. at Albany; N. Y. Lyle Heights,
Hist. Soc. Coll. 1891; D. A. R. Vol. Paso Robles, Calif.
31, 1900 and Bible of John Reese). Mrs. Albert Santos,
3558 Gray street,
Oakland 1, Calif.
HUGUENOTS
The following letter was received by Paul B. Mattice, 1680 Neilson St., Utica, written by J. H. de Ruyter, Amersfoort, Holland:
In the archives of Holland is much genealogical data regarding Ameri- can immigrants as well as about Huguenot families. As many Huguc- nots lived in Holland before they left for America, there are in many cases connections to be found here. They are records of many Canadian fami- lies included.
From notes in my filing system, there appears data on the families mentioned In the enclosed list.
The data above includes births, marriages and deaths and concerns old Dutch families, the Huguenots and their' relatives. From 5 to 400 individual entries to the surnames.
am gladly prepared to send you more exhaustive list. Fore some fam- ilies there exist genealogical lists as well as coats of arms.
Very truly yours: J. H. de Ruyter.
The original Dutch spelling of your name is Mattysen or Matthysen. Jan Matthyssen was town clerk of the town of Brielle and died before 9 Sept. 1423. "Johannes Mathie clericus civitatis Bryelensis."
Allen, Bain, Beauchamp, de Berry, Bever, Biber, Blanchard, Bradley, Burnett, Camp, Catlin, Carpentier, Cockrell, Colller-Golyear, Clifford, Collins, de Cou, da Costa, Delanoy, Delo, Douglas, Gay, Gillet, Guy, Van Gulick, Hamilton.
Harris, Jacquet, Jillet, Kip, Lanler, · : Lebrine, Macalister, Malone, des Mar- est van Marsells, Maupin, Melijn, Merry, Moor, Morgan, Pardon, Por- ter, Prudhomme, Resen, de la Roche, ' . Roberts, Russel, Siokel, Tanner, du Val, Zand.
BERRY
Mary Berry was born in Orange county, Va. and on July 22, 1776 she married John Musick, son of the above Ephraim Musick and wife Mary Roy. Mary Berry had a broth- er Colonel Robert Berry termed "In- dian Fighter" who lived in Kentucky when his niece Sally Musick Benson
4 was married at his home. Mary and John Musick lived near Lexington, Ky. where some children were born and until old age when they went to Logan county, Ill. to make their home with son Robert. They are bur- led in Fancy Creek cemetery In Lo- gan county. Desire parentage of Mary and her brother Rooert Berry. Elzoe P. C. Weissgerber, 347 Kimball Terrace, hula Vista, Calif.
Va. Oct. 26, 1740, died Shelby Co .. Ky. 1806: They had 9 children.
2. Rosanna Steele married Robert Finley, bapt. Augusta Co. Va. May 16, 1745, died Ohio. They also had 9 children whose data I shall be glad to share.
Marle Lyle,
WEED, KNAPP, BARNUM
of Wanted ancestry and brothers snd sisters with dates, locations and mar- riages of the John Weed, Jr. Stamford, Conn. who was married by the Rev. John Avery .Dec., 11, 1783, to Hannah Knapp. Was he the Anı. Rev. soldier .born Stamford, Conn. 1747 who enlisted in Capt. Sylvanus Brown's Comp., Col. Chandler's Regt. Conn. Line and was father of Hall- nah A. who married Ira Barnum ? See DAR No. 67127, Vol. 68, p. 45.
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